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afro 11-05-2008 03:11 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by abzalia (Post 17339)
eiiiiiiiiiiiiii{kiss}bestnyer korang bela arnab...i pun minat gak tp sah2 hubby tak kasik bela sebab kat umah dah ade 4 kucing (1 mak + 3 anak)...tambah2 plak mak dorang yang 3 ekor tuh pegnen lagi..tgh menunggu hari plak tuhh...huhuuhhuuh..bertambah rakyat....sebab tuh saya terpaksa iklankan anak dia 2 ekor for adoption...

{shy}hubby just bg syarat, klu nak bela2 lagi "menatang" lepas nih..hamster jek boleh sebab senang nak jaga...rabbit dia x kasik{cry}.....tu pun klu kucing yang 2 ekor kat umah tuh orang dah ambik utk adoption....uhhuhuuhuhhu{nah}..

pst...sorry..i pun x cakap BI....berterabur bukan cam tongkang pecah..tp cam titanic karam...{grin}kues kues kues...wakakakak{shy}

cayalah abzalia!!!kite geng.....x pandai cakap bi.haha....{nah}

afro 11-05-2008 07:39 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by somebunny (Post 16287)
Neuter (for male) is an easier operation and less invasive compared to spaying (for females). Spaying is more invasive because the vet has to cut through the female's tummy to reach the reproductive organs. Whereas for males, the vet can just make small slits in the testicles.

The price is about rm200 for the operation, on average. Different vets will give different price. If performed by an experienced vet, the operation is very safe.

Males can be neutered once their testicles descend. This usually happens around 5 months.

Females can be spayed when they reach 6 months.

Now your male is 4 mths and female is 3mths. Rabbits begin to sexually mature at 3mths.. so you should separate them now otherwise you will end up with a pregnant rabbit, and she is too young to be pregnant right now.

There is nothing to 'kesian/sayang' about neutering and spaying. The rabbit will recover in just a few days (within 1 day for male, and 2-3 days for female). After that, they can live happily together without the stress of wanting to mate all the time.

What is more kesian is when people simply breed their rabbits. Then simply give away all the babies.. don't care good homes or not. And the babies get exploited the same way as their parents.. made to breed non stop because that's what people think rabbits should do. And when there are too many babies to handle, people release them into the wild.. of course the rabbit will die within days. Now, that is kesian.

If you want baby rabbits in the future, you can always buy them.. don't need to make your own babies. There are lots of rabbits being churned out by petshops daily.. I don't support this practice, but at the same time, pity those rabbits.. they are innocent victims, so if you want a baby rabbit, go 'rescue' one from a petshop or adopt one from the shelters.

Another thing people are not aware off is that rabbits should not be separated from their mothers and sold before they are 8 wks old. A lot of ppl want to buy baby rabbits because they are cute.. the younger the better. That is a mistake. Too young and the baby will die after you bring it home. The stress of being removed from its mother, the stress of moving to a new environment, the stress of having to adapt to solid food before it's system is ready.. all this will kill the rabbit. Too often, you hear of ppl complaining that their baby rabbit died after just a few days after they bought it. This is the reason why..

Sorry, I can't write in BM haha my BM very 'koyak'! But good that we can still understand each other :D

memang susah ek nak cari vet clinic yang buleh neuter/spay wabit?tadi i dah tanya vet clinic seluruh bangi n kajang termasuk jabatan perkhdmtan vet.satu pun tak ada yang buat.yang ada cuma kat main branch puchong n putrajaya.reason yang dia bagi sebab wabit tak buleh kasi pelali secara suntikan. dia perlu dilalikan pakai gas. betul ka...?

vet tu kata lagi, peluang untuk hidup tak begitu begitu tinggi. thas why sebelum dibenarkan untuk buat operation kita perlu bagi reason kenapa nak neuter/spay dia.betul ka...?

somebunny 11-05-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
Sorry to say, all that information is wrong.

Spay/neuter is very safe when performed by an experienced vet. The success rate should be 99.99%.

As for anesthetic, both injectible and gas can be used.. there are types which are safe for rabbits. The only difference is that gas does not stay in the rabbit's blood system and is removed from the body when the rabbit breathes. So in that sense, it is less stressful on the rabbit's body especially on the liver, and the rabbit will recover faster from the effects of anesthesia.

If you want, I can give you my vet's contact. His clinic is near Ikea.

afro 11-06-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by somebunny (Post 17488)
Sorry to say, all that information is wrong.

Spay/neuter is very safe when performed by an experienced vet. The success rate should be 99.99%.

As for anesthetic, both injectible and gas can be used.. there are types which are safe for rabbits. The only difference is that gas does not stay in the rabbit's blood system and is removed from the body when the rabbit breathes. So in that sense, it is less stressful on the rabbit's body especially on the liver, and the rabbit will recover faster from the effects of anesthesia.

If you want, I can give you my vet's contact. His clinic is near Ikea.

oo...ya ka?i rasa tadi yang bagi tau i tu bukan vet kot.maybe just vet's asstnce kot...

Ikea? jauhnya....saya duduk bangi. tak ada transport nak pergi.anyway, u just bagi je contact no vet tu & berapa cost surgery? kot2 la i dapat petunjuk untuk pergi ke sana.huhu....{shy}

somebunny 11-06-2008 10:28 AM

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HESHMAEL CLINIC FOR PETS SDN BHD
21-1, Dataran Sunway, Jln PJU 5/13, Kota Damansara, 47000 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Phone: 03-6156 2478

RM 200 (Price may vary a bit depending on each individual case)

Even if you spoke to the vet's assistant.. if the clinic treats a lot of rabbits, the assistant should know the procedure. You can call again and ask to speak to the vet. Do more research about spay/neuter so that you know what questions to ask the vet.

afro 11-13-2008 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by somebunny (Post 17547)
HESHMAEL CLINIC FOR PETS SDN BHD
21-1, Dataran Sunway, Jln PJU 5/13, Kota Damansara, 47000 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Phone: 03-6156 2478

RM 200 (Price may vary a bit depending on each individual case)

Even if you spoke to the vet's assistant.. if the clinic treats a lot of rabbits, the assistant should know the procedure. You can call again and ask to speak to the vet. Do more research about spay/neuter so that you know what questions to ask the vet.

saya ada jumpa klinik vet yang buleh neuter wabit. cost dia cuma rm70. tapi dia pakai suntikan pelali. apa pendapat you all? ok ke X? boleh tak saya buat kat vet ni?

abzalia 11-13-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by afro (Post 17423)
cayalah abzalia!!!kite geng.....x pandai cakap bi.haha....{nah}

{what}umanggg aiii...mahal jugak sampai RM200....huhuhuh..tambah lg rm200 dah dapat baby persian dah...wakakaka.... afro....geng la kite nih..degil x mo ikut cakap che-gu BI..tuh yg jadik lintang pukang tuh.... u bela arnab je ker ade anak bulu lain...??? {shy}{shy}

afro 11-13-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by abzalia (Post 18631)
{what}umanggg aiii...mahal jugak sampai RM200....huhuhuh..tambah lg rm200 dah dapat baby persian dah...wakakaka.... afro....geng la kite nih..degil x mo ikut cakap che-gu BI..tuh yg jadik lintang pukang tuh.... u bela arnab je ker ade anak bulu lain...??? {shy}{shy}

ade2....selain 3 ekor haiwan berbulu bertelinga panjang, saya ada bela 9 ekor syirian hamster ngan 1 kucing baka yang xberapa nak pasti.macam kucing benggal ada, kucing utan pun ada, kucing local pun ada. tah2 dah mix kot...
haha....{nah}

afro 11-14-2008 02:33 PM

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6 Attachment(s)
to vivien...
ni gambar lagi 2 ekor wabit saya
shiro (M, hitam, 4 bulan), momoi (F, kuning, 3 bulan)

vivienlpl 11-17-2008 07:28 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by afro (Post 18856)
to vivien...
ni gambar lagi 2 ekor wabit saya
shiro (M, hitam, 4 bulan), momoi (F, kuning, 3 bulan)

wahh nice nice..this two.........cuteeeee........
are they eating brown leaves? no right? hahaha

afro 11-17-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vivienlpl (Post 19300)
wahh nice nice..this two.........cuteeeee........
are they eating brown leaves? no right? hahaha

setakat ni saya xpernah nampak dieorang makan daun coklat. kalau dieorang makan boleh jadi apa? jadi lagi cute ka?{muacks}
atau jadi sakit??{scared}

vivienlpl 11-17-2008 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by afro (Post 19303)
setakat ni saya xpernah nampak dieorang makan daun coklat. kalau dieorang makan boleh jadi apa? jadi lagi cute ka?{muacks}
atau jadi sakit??{scared}

wah jangan bagi dia makan itu daun coklat la...nanti cirit birit {sick}

afro 11-17-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vivienlpl (Post 19305)
wah jangan bagi dia makan itu daun coklat la...nanti cirit birit {sick}

haha...dieorang x akan makan daun2 tu walaupun bersepah kat playground die....{victory}
FYI, bobo baru je lepas neuter.baru ambil kat klinik tadi...{shy}

abzalia 11-18-2008 06:39 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by afro (Post 18653)
ade2....selain 3 ekor haiwan berbulu bertelinga panjang, saya ada bela 9 ekor syirian hamster ngan 1 kucing baka yang xberapa nak pasti.macam kucing benggal ada, kucing utan pun ada, kucing local pun ada. tah2 dah mix kot...
haha....{nah}

bestnyerrrrrr....saya ingat gaji nih nk adiahkan hamster kat hubby sempena fren anibersari kitorg ( jangan ingat wedding enibersari jek kene selebret tauu{nah})... {grin}so dah plan dah nak kasik dia sekor hamster..ari tuh tgk dalam petfinder nih ke mudah.com sekor hamster harga rm5 jek..{shy}{shy}. hubby minat hamster tp bela banyak2 x mo dia cakap..sekor dua udah le tp nk 2-2 male ler..kang f&m kang bertambah2 kang ha...tuan dia x bertambah2{shy}{shy}

errffffff....kucing utan??????{oh}{oh}mane?? mane pic nyer..?? nk tgk!!!
masa muda2 dulu masa kat kpg ade sepupu tangkap kucing utan...telinga dia runcing skit...corak bulu pun nampak unik..cam best jek tp kucing tuh cam garang skit...x bleh nak dekat2..last2 sepupu jual kat orang.....rupa2nyer cam tuh ler kucing utan..hehehe{shy}{shy}

afro 11-18-2008 10:33 PM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by abzalia (Post 19649)
bestnyerrrrrr....saya ingat gaji nih nk adiahkan hamster kat hubby sempena fren anibersari kitorg ( jangan ingat wedding enibersari jek kene selebret tauu{nah})... {grin}so dah plan dah nak kasik dia sekor hamster..ari tuh tgk dalam petfinder nih ke mudah.com sekor hamster harga rm5 jek..{shy}{shy}. hubby minat hamster tp bela banyak2 x mo dia cakap..sekor dua udah le tp nk 2-2 male ler..kang f&m kang bertambah2 kang ha...tuan dia x bertambah2{shy}{shy}

errffffff....kucing utan??????{oh}{oh}mane?? mane pic nyer..?? nk tgk!!!
masa muda2 dulu masa kat kpg ade sepupu tangkap kucing utan...telinga dia runcing skit...corak bulu pun nampak unik..cam best jek tp kucing tuh cam garang skit...x bleh nak dekat2..last2 sepupu jual kat orang.....rupa2nyer cam tuh ler kucing utan..hehehe{shy}{shy}

ala, macam kucing benggal je.macam kucing adalam avatar sillylupie...skang ni xde gambar die...

vivienlpl 11-19-2008 09:21 AM

Re: Litter Training Rabbits
 
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Originally Posted by afro (Post 19366)
haha...dieorang x akan makan daun2 tu walaupun bersepah kat playground die....{victory}
FYI, bobo baru je lepas neuter.baru ambil kat klinik tadi...{shy}

bobo ok sekarang???

afro 11-19-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vivienlpl (Post 19750)
bobo ok sekarang???

ok...dia sihat.lepas sampai bilik je die terus lari....{scared}
nak elak luka terkoyak, terus kurung dia{shy}

vivienlpl 11-19-2008 12:51 PM

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make sure you your cage is clean because the wound takes time to heal...

i scare infection.... if the cage is not clean...

afro 11-26-2008 04:09 PM

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Dengan rasa bangganya saya ingin memberitahu bahawa Bobo dah pulih 100%.Huhu...

vivienlpl 12-03-2008 12:47 PM

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that's good to know Bobo already fit and healthy..............

take good care of Bobo...... {wink}


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