Go

Go Back   PetFinder.my > The Animal Corner > Dogs & Puppies

Dogs & Puppies General information and discussions on taking care of your canine buddy

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-27-2009, 03:18 PM
lynielime's Avatar
lynielime lynielime is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bukit Prima Pelangi, KL
Posts: 672
Rep Power: 16
lynielime is on a distinguished road
Default Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

very interesting article!!
enjoy!
lynette


Dogs (not chimps) most like humans
Man's best friend serves as model for understanding human social behavior

By Jennifer Viegas

Chimpanzees share many of our genes, but dogs have lived with us for so long and undergone so much domestication that they are now serving as a model for understanding human social behavior, according to a new paper.

Cooperation, attachment to people, understanding human verbal and non-verbal communications, and the ability to imitate are just a handful of the social behaviors we share with dogs. They might even think like us at times too, according to the paper, which has been accepted for publication in the journal Advances in the Study of Behavior.

While there is no evidence to support that dogs and humans co-evolved their laundry list of shared behaviors over the past 10,000 to 20,000 years, the researchers believe adapting to the same living conditions during this period may have resulted in the similarities.

Lead author Jozsef Topal explained to Discovery News "that shared environment has led to the emergence of functionally shared behavioral features in dogs and humans and, in some cases, functionally analogous underlying cognitive skills."

Topal, who is based at the Institute for Psychology at the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, is one of the world's leading canine researchers. He and his team argue that dogs should serve as the "new chimpanzees" in comparative studies designed to shed light on human uniqueness.

"In my view, pet dogs can be regarded in many respects as 'preverbal infants in canine's clothing,'" he said, adding that many dog-owner relationships mirror human parental bonds with children.

In one of many recent studies conducted by the team, Topal and his colleagues taught both a 16-month-old human child and mature dogs to repeat multiple demonstrated actions on verbal command — "Do it!," shouted in Hungarian.

The actions included turning around in circles, vocalizing, jumping up, jumping over a horizontal rod, putting an object into a container, carrying an object to the owner or parent, and pushing a rod to the floor.

The dogs "performed surprisingly well and at a comparable level to the 16-month-old child," Topal said.

Multiple studies mentioned by the authors also support that dogs exhibit all three primary types of social behavior that humans evolved when they split from chimpanzees 6 million years ago. The first is "sociality," or organization into groups where members are loyal to each other and display reduced aggression.

The second is synchronization, where following shared social rules and even taking on each others emotions helps to strengthen group unity. The researchers, for example, say that, "when approached by an unfamiliar person showing definite signs of friendliness and threat in succession, dogs show rapid changes of emotional and behavioral response in accordance with the human's attitude."

The third is "constructive activity," where individuals within a group cooperate and communicate with each other to achieve goals. Dogs can also distinguish rational from irrational human communications, Topal said.

The scientists additionally believe dogs are good models for human social behavior because studies can compare and contrast domesticated dogs with wolves, and then with humans.

Marc Hauser, a professor and director of the Cognitive Evolution Lab at Harvard University, fully agrees that dogs offer a good model for understanding human behavior.

"The dog has come into its own as a great new model for understanding the mind in general, and the evolution of the human mind in particular," Hauser told Discovery News. "Not only have we lived with dogs for thousands of years, but because of this relationship, we have acted as an agent of selection to modify aspects of their behavior and minds."

"Now, perhaps for the first time, students of animal behavior, psychology, neuroscience, anthropology, philosophy and veterinary medicine will unite to provide deeper insights into the evolution of dogs and the evolution of humans," he added. "I for one am very excited about this opportunity, which is why we have followed the lead of other labs, and started our own dog lab!"

© 2009 Discovery Channel
__________________
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-27-2009, 03:42 PM
dreay dreay is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Cheras area
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 0
dreay is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

I reli have2agree wif u~

Pls do hav a luk at the website here~
U'll b touch to see hw amazing it was~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgjyhKN_35g
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-27-2009, 03:55 PM
lynielime's Avatar
lynielime lynielime is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bukit Prima Pelangi, KL
Posts: 672
Rep Power: 16
lynielime is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

yes i saw that video before! you're right it's amazing and really touching. it makes me want to cry. dogs are wonderful!!! i'm glad you feel that way about them too.
__________________
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-27-2009, 04:00 PM
dreay dreay is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Cheras area
Posts: 27
Rep Power: 0
dreay is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

(")[>.^](")

I was AMAZE wen i saw tat video....
I too hav2admit tat i hv tears in my eyes wen i watch tat video..
I felt touch by looking hw te dog save his own kind...
Not even ONE 'so-call-Human' din even STOP....
I mean tats reli terrible...no offense! *im human2* LOLX

Tats is y i alwis tink~

"GOD IS AMAZING"

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-27-2009, 04:38 PM
vivi's Avatar
vivi vivi is offline
PetFinder Wowwow
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 584
Rep Power: 16
vivi is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

hi
i watches that video before too.
Makes me feel very kasihan bcos i have saw similiar cases too in my hometown.
The dog partner din drag to save his partner because she's dead being hit by car.
He just stay there with her for one whole day under the sun.
So kasihan.
many motor pass by and try to make the dog go away (cos very dangerous)but he refuse.
Then the next day both of them are gone.
Haiz~~~ to think that dog have more heart than human.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-27-2009, 05:50 PM
blackie007's Avatar
blackie007 blackie007 is offline
Petfinder Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: KL
Posts: 3,418
Rep Power: 19
blackie007 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

i saw that before, too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lynielime View Post
yes i saw that video before! you're right it's amazing and really touching. it makes me want to cry. dogs are wonderful!!! i'm glad you feel that way about them too.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-27-2009, 09:40 PM
monkee94's Avatar
monkee94 monkee94 is offline
PetFinder Buddy
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bandar Baru Sri Petaling KL
Posts: 92
Rep Power: 16
monkee94 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to monkee94
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Quote:
Originally Posted by vivi View Post
hi
i watches that video before too.
Makes me feel very kasihan bcos i have saw similiar cases too in my hometown.
The dog partner din drag to save his partner because she's dead being hit by car.
He just stay there with her for one whole day under the sun.
So kasihan.
many motor pass by and try to make the dog go away (cos very dangerous)but he refuse.
Then the next day both of them are gone.
Haiz~~~ to think that dog have more heart than human.
yeah..i saw that happened before the dog just sat in the middle of the highway beside its companion who got knocked down..this goes to show how loyal dogs are no matter who it is...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-27-2009, 09:53 PM
vivi's Avatar
vivi vivi is offline
PetFinder Wowwow
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 584
Rep Power: 16
vivi is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Haiz~~~ very kasihan
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-17-2009, 07:12 PM
Joni's Avatar
Joni Joni is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Petaling Jaya
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 0
Joni is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

I have also watch the clips before... can you believe it, i was so touched till my eyes were teary... i do wonder could a human help another human if they were in the same situation like in the video clip...

Points to ponder...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-17-2009, 07:20 PM
Ezer's Avatar
Ezer Ezer is offline
CEO, EzerNET
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 796
Rep Power: 10
Ezer has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Nice article, Lynie...

All my life I have had dogs.. and I can attest to the accuracy of that article first hand.

Here's a story of my Rottweiller that sheds some light on how intelligent and conscious dogs are...

My dog, Shadow knew he's not supposed to sleep on the couch because we taught him not to.. so, one day while i was in my room, at about 4 am... i watch on the CCTV and found him sleeping on the couch... I then came out of my room, and when i reached the hall, I found him asleep on the floor...

So, guess what he did? He heard me opening my door, then immediately got off the couch and 'pretended' to be asleep on the floor... now, how much consciousness you need to be able to pull off that kind of misdirection? He obviously couldn't possibly know what CCTV was and as far as he knew, he got away with a crime!! hehe..

That shows you how intelligent dogs are... and I am pretty sure, a lot of animals are as well... remember, we humans are just another type of animal... with a bigger brain, is all...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-17-2009, 08:50 PM
blackie007's Avatar
blackie007 blackie007 is offline
Petfinder Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: KL
Posts: 3,418
Rep Power: 19
blackie007 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

hey! you are right, ezer, about animals being able to misdirect. I hadn't seen it that way until you mentioned it.

Just like your Shadow, my Blackie was taught not to hop up onto the pots and chew the plants. And we've never caught him in the act ever since we taught him......but, we'll find evidences of chewed leaves, branches pulled off, and he'll be around the vicinity, but sitting quietly and looking innocent like as if he's been doing that all the while.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezer View Post
Nice article, Lynie...

All my life I have had dogs.. and I can attest to the accuracy of that article first hand.

Here's a story of my Rottweiller that sheds some light on how intelligent and conscious dogs are...

My dog, Shadow knew he's not supposed to sleep on the couch because we taught him not to.. so, one day while i was in my room, at about 4 am... i watch on the CCTV and found him sleeping on the couch... I then came out of my room, and when i reached the hall, I found him asleep on the floor...

So, guess what he did? He heard me opening my door, then immediately got off the couch and 'pretended' to be asleep on the floor... now, how much consciousness you need to be able to pull off that kind of misdirection? He obviously couldn't possibly know what CCTV was and as far as he knew, he got away with a crime!! hehe..

That shows you how intelligent dogs are... and I am pretty sure, a lot of animals are as well... remember, we humans are just another type of animal... with a bigger brain, is all...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-17-2009, 09:35 PM
June June is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tmn Shamelin Perkasa-Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 6,004
Rep Power: 0
June is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Charlene,I'm very familiar with this act but the culprits were caught in the act finally.


Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie007 View Post
hey! you are right, ezer, about animals being able to misdirect. I hadn't seen it that way until you mentioned it.

Just like your Shadow, my Blackie was taught not to hop up onto the pots and chew the plants. And we've never caught him in the act ever since we taught him......but, we'll find evidences of chewed leaves, branches pulled off, and he'll be around the vicinity, but sitting quietly and looking innocent like as if he's been doing that all the while.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-17-2009, 10:16 PM
blackie007's Avatar
blackie007 blackie007 is offline
Petfinder Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: KL
Posts: 3,418
Rep Power: 19
blackie007 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

i can never catch the culprit in my home becos i think he hears me as i approach.

Quote:
Originally Posted by June View Post
Charlene,I'm very familiar with this act but the culprits were caught in the act finally.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-18-2009, 01:42 AM
Ezer's Avatar
Ezer Ezer is offline
CEO, EzerNET
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 796
Rep Power: 10
Ezer has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Quote:
Originally Posted by June View Post
Charlene,I'm very familiar with this act but the culprits were caught in the act finally.
Haha.. looks like June, you're onto your pets!! hehe.. htye can't get away with anything with your watchful eyes..

Anyways, I pretended i didn't know as well with shadow.. let him think he's outsmarted me.. hehe..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-18-2009, 01:42 AM
Ezer's Avatar
Ezer Ezer is offline
CEO, EzerNET
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 796
Rep Power: 10
Ezer has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie007 View Post
hey! you are right, ezer, about animals being able to misdirect. I hadn't seen it that way until you mentioned it.

Just like your Shadow, my Blackie was taught not to hop up onto the pots and chew the plants. And we've never caught him in the act ever since we taught him......but, we'll find evidences of chewed leaves, branches pulled off, and he'll be around the vicinity, but sitting quietly and looking innocent like as if he's been doing that all the while.
Yup they can indeed.. I heard that dogs are as conscious as a 4 year old human child.. that's pretty smart and conscious if you ask me..

And if you look at it that way, when peopel are cruel to animals, and kills them, it's equivalent to kiling or torturing a 4 year old child..
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-18-2009, 07:59 AM
veanne's Avatar
veanne veanne is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: im from perak...
Posts: 173
Rep Power: 16
veanne is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to veanne
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezer View Post
Nice article, Lynie...

All my life I have had dogs.. and I can attest to the accuracy of that article first hand.

Here's a story of my Rottweiller that sheds some light on how intelligent and conscious dogs are...

My dog, Shadow knew he's not supposed to sleep on the couch because we taught him not to.. so, one day while i was in my room, at about 4 am... i watch on the CCTV and found him sleeping on the couch... I then came out of my room, and when i reached the hall, I found him asleep on the floor...

So, guess what he did? He heard me opening my door, then immediately got off the couch and 'pretended' to be asleep on the floor... now, how much consciousness you need to be able to pull off that kind of misdirection? He obviously couldn't possibly know what CCTV was and as far as he knew, he got away with a crime!! hehe..

That shows you how intelligent dogs are... and I am pretty sure, a lot of animals are as well... remember, we humans are just another type of animal... with a bigger brain, is all...
reminds me about the huge mistake that my dog have done... all my dogs are not allowed to go near my mom's garden...

one day, choco step into the garden... and this huge mistake begin... so many flower he didn't pick to chew... and he pick my mom's favourite flower... i dunno what is it call... but, for sure it's really hard to plant... it will only grew ONE big flower for few days in that ONE year... then choco was get cought doing it and being scolded by my mom real bad...

then the next day, it's shiro's turn... LOL... shiro likes grassy area... and this is what he did... so, after a few minutes... shiro walk very slowly with his head looking at the floor... then sit down beside me... that second, i already know he did something bad... then i look at his paw and confirmed he steps into my mom's garden... LOL... suddenly, my mom shouting : this time, whose fault now...??!! the first reaction when shiro heard my mom's voice, he immediately hide under the table... LOL...
__________________
~veanne~
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-18-2009, 05:04 PM
blackie007's Avatar
blackie007 blackie007 is offline
Petfinder Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: KL
Posts: 3,418
Rep Power: 19
blackie007 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Yup. And if I could change anything in this world, I would change the attitude of humans towards their 4-legged companions. I guess we all have to do our part and help spread the awareness that animals are sentient beings.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezer View Post
Yup they can indeed.. I heard that dogs are as conscious as a 4 year old human child.. that's pretty smart and conscious if you ask me..

And if you look at it that way, when peopel are cruel to animals, and kills them, it's equivalent to kiling or torturing a 4 year old child..
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-18-2009, 05:24 PM
June June is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tmn Shamelin Perkasa-Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 6,004
Rep Power: 0
June is on a distinguished road
Default Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Yeah,last time when I was in the early stage rescuing stray cats they fool me several times.But now,I'm the expert I know if they have done something wrong they will pretending lying on the floor as nothing happen. Very smart cats.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezer View Post
Haha.. looks like June, you're onto your pets!! hehe.. htye can't get away with anything with your watchful eyes..

Anyways, I pretended i didn't know as well with shadow.. let him think he's outsmarted me.. hehe..
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-18-2009, 06:07 PM
veanne's Avatar
veanne veanne is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: im from perak...
Posts: 173
Rep Power: 16
veanne is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to veanne
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

pets are normally expert in pretending
__________________
~veanne~
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-18-2009, 08:35 PM
cookie's Avatar
cookie cookie is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 257
Rep Power: 16
cookie is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Dogs (not chimps) most like humans

Hahaha, and real cute when they do try hard to pretend. But not all will do that.
I have had pets who would not budge but sat unmoving, eyes shut tight with ears folded backwards, ready to take whatever punishment given - verbal, physical or both.
Well punishment had to be given and was given lots of extra hugs and love immediately after (for taking the punishment like a 'man'). Sigh!

Quote:
Originally Posted by veanne View Post
pets are normally expert in pretending
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
.:: Inconsiderate HUmans! ::. BabyZee Hall of Shame 3 07-29-2008 04:43 PM


All times are GMT +8. The time now is 02:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 

Main Site
Home
Advertising
Sponsored Listings
Sign Up
Find A Pet
Share & Save Lives
About PetFinder.my
Terms & Conditions
Freebies / Starter Pack
Report Animal Abuse
Contact Us
Facilities
WAGazine
Discussion Forum
Medical Fund
Pet Food, Toys & Products
Cuteness Meter
Central News Portal
Visual Map
Knowledge Library
Microchip Directory
FurryCards
Mobile
iPhone & iPod App
Android App

Social Media
Facebook
Twitter
KindMeal
Meat-Free Dining
Meal Deals
Kind Moments
Delicious Menu

Others
World Animal Day Contest
Digi iPhone Contest
East Coast Flood Relief
It's Pawssible
Freebies
Online Store
Discussions
Blacklists & Scams



Copyright © PetFinder.my. All rights reserved.