Go

Go Back   PetFinder.my > The Animal Corner > Cats & Kittens > Training & Behavioral Issues

Training & Behavioral Issues Does your cat have an attitude, or just simply refuses to listen to you? Share it with your peers here and learn more about a cat's behavior and training methods

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:33 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Pakcu need help

Dear Friends,
Most of the time, Pakcu will be in Pahang, maybe 80% of the month and the rest 20% will be in KL. For the past one year, Pakcu've noticing something. Stray cats in KL are quite social and easily bribed by free food, unlike in Jerantut, strays are very difficult to approach and take days to be bribed by food. And in KL, strays will always come repeatedly for their free food while in Jerantut they seems to eat and forget to come the next day.
For the past one month, Pakcu has been feeding this beautiful mommy and her gorgeous litters but never once Pakcu get hold of all of them. Everyday, Pakcu will feed them, always in the afternoon, but they never come on that time but at night, but when Pakcu want to get near them at night, they run away and most of the time never come back to eat. It's still there tommorrow afternoon..

So, please help Pakcu - guides on how to tame this type of strays, how to get their trust and how-how-how... Pakcu really like to spay the mother and neuter the litter when they gets old.. so ur help will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:38 PM
June June is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tmn Shamelin Perkasa-Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 6,004
Rep Power: 0
June is on a distinguished road
Default Pakcu need help

Pakcu,I have give this tips to Lynielime this trick but dunno works on your strays or not.cuba dulu baru tau.Pakcu amik carrier,letak makanan kat dlm dan ikat string halus warna putih.letak kat sudut,bila durang masuk terus tarik tali dan cepat2 kunci pintu carrier.saya pernah cuba dan berjaya,lynielime dah cuba dan berjaya.tp perlukan masa dan kena bertunggu tanggalah klu pakcu sanggup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
Dear Friends,
Most of the time, Pakcu will be in Pahang, maybe 80% of the month and the rest 20% will be in KL. For the past one year, Pakcu've noticing something. Stray cats in KL are quite social and easily bribed by free food, unlike in Jerantut, strays are very difficult to approach and take days to be bribed by food. And in KL, strays will always come repeatedly for their free food while in Jerantut they seems to eat and forget to come the next day.
For the past one month, Pakcu has been feeding this beautiful mommy and her gorgeous litters but never once Pakcu get hold of all of them. Everyday, Pakcu will feed them, always in the afternoon, but they never come on that time but at night, but when Pakcu want to get near them at night, they run away and most of the time never come back to eat. It's still there tommorrow afternoon..

So, please help Pakcu - guides on how to tame this type of strays, how to get their trust and how-how-how... Pakcu really like to spay the mother and neuter the litter when they gets old.. so ur help will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-22-2008, 01:54 PM
ashleywong ashleywong is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Taman Desa, KL
Posts: 711
Rep Power: 0
ashleywong is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

yes, june, lynie said it worked, that was how she captured her mama cat and the 3 kittens..

i guess because the density of people in jerantut is less than KL, i guess the cats there are not that "used" to people's presence, especially if in the past, they have been chased by people before. therefore they'd have learn to be wary and distrustful of human beings. i don't blame them, me too distrust human beings sometimes.

aside from what june suggested, if pakcu wishes to gain their trust, what pakcu can do, in my humble opinion, is not be anxious to get hold of them (even though the clock is ticking). just put food out for them, and retreat to a safe distance to monitor that they do eat and not bullied by other cats. do it consistently like this and the mother cat will eventually learn to equate pakcu with 'safety" and "food". if she will eat when you're around, then at least you have gained her trust, and i guess you shortened the distance until they come to you - not you to them.

kalaua lah ada masa a- kalau tak de, i guess try june's approach but with a big enough carrier cage

just my two cents, good luck pakcu
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-22-2008, 02:10 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Thanks June and Ashley..
Pakcu will try both...wish me luck..hehe. Lupa lak nak tanya June, kalau la Pakcu dah dpt tgkp tu dlm carrier, lepas tu nak buat camana? Berapa lama kalau nak kurung? Rasanya Pakcu kena pakai glove kut.. takut dia gigit nanti
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:05 PM
June June is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tmn Shamelin Perkasa-Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 6,004
Rep Power: 0
June is on a distinguished road
Default Pakcu need help

Bergantung kpd keadaan.utk mempercepatkan proses,adalah lbh baik lklu tangkap durang waktu malam sebab kucing aktif di malam hari.klu dah tangkap simpan dulu dirumah.esoknya blh hantar ke vet utk di zasss!! pakcu ada cage tak??

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
Thanks June and Ashley..
Pakcu will try both...wish me luck..hehe. Lupa lak nak tanya June, kalau la Pakcu dah dpt tgkp tu dlm carrier, lepas tu nak buat camana? Berapa lama kalau nak kurung? Rasanya Pakcu kena pakai glove kut.. takut dia gigit nanti
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:08 PM
hourus's Avatar
hourus hourus is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Puchong, Selangor
Posts: 120
Rep Power: 13
hourus is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to hourus Send a message via Yahoo to hourus
Thumbs up Re: Pakcu need help

all the best pakcu !!!
__________________

zzzzzz.....woof woof
FurKid in the Car
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:27 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by June View Post
Bergantung kpd keadaan.utk mempercepatkan proses,adalah lbh baik lklu tangkap durang waktu malam sebab kucing aktif di malam hari.klu dah tangkap simpan dulu dirumah.esoknya blh hantar ke vet utk di zasss!! pakcu ada cage tak??
Ok, pakcu ada cage si Kilau tu ler.. K, mlm esok Pakcu try.
Thanks hourus for the wish...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:47 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Pakcu, from my long experience dengan muka sepohsen super smart (some smarter and more feral than others), ada yang boleh trap dengan menggunakan carrier besar, ada yang tak boleh dan perlukan sangkar saiz yang digunakan dalam cat competition (yang dulu harganya RM20 sahaja, pastu naik RM40, sekarang jual RM70 ... adoiii!!!) the very feral and smart pregnant cat with dead kittens dalam perut tu saya terpaksa gunakan sangkar tu lah ... pastu ada yang macam Mama tomei saya yang super duper smart dan very de skolah one ... carrier tak mau dekat pun walaupun berbulan-bulan umpan dia, sangkar kucing tu pun dia tak moh ... in the end in desperation saya pasang perangkap musang baru dapat dia!
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:51 PM
Ferreted Ferreted is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bandar Utama
Posts: 415
Rep Power: 0
Ferreted is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

pakcu.. i dont know much bout cats, but i can help by praying for you, may your good intentions will succeed and that pakcu will be blessed thousand times over. good luck pakcu!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-22-2008, 03:54 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by FurKids View Post
Pakcu, from my long experience dengan muka sepohsen super smart (some smarter and more feral than others), ada yang boleh trap dengan menggunakan carrier besar, ada yang tak boleh dan perlukan sangkar saiz yang digunakan dalam cat competition (yang dulu harganya RM20 sahaja, pastu naik RM40, sekarang jual RM70 ... adoiii!!!) the very feral and smart pregnant cat with dead kittens dalam perut tu saya terpaksa gunakan sangkar tu lah ... pastu ada yang macam Mama tomei saya yang super duper smart dan very de skolah one ... carrier tak mau dekat pun walaupun berbulan-bulan umpan dia, sangkar kucing tu pun dia tak moh ... in the end in desperation saya pasang perangkap musang baru dapat dia!
Tu ler.. Furkids, Pakcu nak dekat pun tak bole.. mencibut semua lari. Makanan pun tinggal mcm tu jer, sampai esok pun masih tak dtg lagi.. Oooh cages tu dah naik RM 70.00 ker.. mampus ler.. mcm ni. Musang trap tu mcm na lak rupanyer... i hope nothing happen to the trap cats.. Kalau ada pic musang trap tu pastekan k. Mana tau kat kampong sini ada.. leh try.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:01 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferreted View Post
pakcu.. i dont know much bout cats, but i can help by praying for you, may your good intentions will succeed and that pakcu will be blessed thousand times over. good luck pakcu!
Thanks chelly.. hopefully pakcu'll succeed..hehe
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:01 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
Ok, pakcu ada cage si Kilau tu ler.. K, mlm esok Pakcu try.
Thanks hourus for the wish...
Pakcu, practise beberapa kali dulu, kasi dia masuk dan keluar beberapa hari sampai dia confident baru tutup pintu. And you have to execute it calmly, smoothly but quickly sebab the cat will be very alert ... jangan Pakcu cuba dengan full of anxiety, muka dan badan penuh berpeluh dan tangan menggeletar, jari beku, ya? Sebab if you fail, it will set you back many weeks for the cat to regain trust of you dan dia akan 'sekolah' mcm ikan that got away, will stay weary of the umpan ...

Also, make sure you have a light piece of cloth ready to fully cover the carrier or cage becos the cat will instantly panic and thrash about trying to escape. The cloth will make the cat settle a bit through it will try to pull the cloth away through any opening!

Zen yourself kaw-kaw first, go through the whole process mentally to ensure success the first time you try. It may sometimes be your only one chance.
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:07 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
Tu ler.. Furkids, Pakcu nak dekat pun tak bole.. mencibut semua lari. Makanan pun tinggal mcm tu jer, sampai esok pun masih tak dtg lagi.. Oooh cages tu dah naik RM 70.00 ker.. mampus ler.. mcm ni. Musang trap tu mcm na lak rupanyer... i hope nothing happen to the trap cats.. Kalau ada pic musang trap tu pastekan k. Mana tau kat kampong sini ada.. leh try.
Tak leh dekat dan semua lari ya? In that case, you can forget about the carrier or cage sebab bila you tarik tali (the carrier and cage is very light) any slight vibration will cause the cat to dash out! That cat will skolah very fast, so will the other cats watching!

This type of scenario kena guna musang trap (it is heavy and long enough for the cat's tail to go far inside to eat the food placed at the extreme end becos you certainly do not want the heavy trap door to fall on si tomei's tail and injure it in any way!)

Musang traps banyak kat Sabah dan Sarawak, used by plantation ppl. Jabatan Penghilitan mesti ada perangkap tu, termasuk perangkap rimau dan gajah Pakcu cuba lah contact diorang dan pinjam ... kata yang musang cukup la, tak perlu yang rimau atau gajah ... too biiiiiiiiiig!
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:13 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by FurKids View Post
Pakcu, practise beberapa kali dulu, kasi dia masuk dan keluar beberapa hari sampai dia confident baru tutup pintu. And you have to execute it calmly, smoothly but quickly sebab the cat will be very alert ... jangan Pakcu cuba dengan full of anxiety, muka dan badan penuh berpeluh dan tangan menggeletar, jari beku, ya? Sebab if you fail, it will set you back many weeks for the cat to regain trust of you dan dia akan 'sekolah' mcm ikan that got away, will stay weary of the umpan ...

Also, make sure you have a light piece of cloth ready to fully cover the carrier or cage becos the cat will instantly panic and thrash about trying to escape. The cloth will make the cat settle a bit through it will try to pull the cloth away through any opening!

Zen yourself kaw-kaw first, go through the whole process mentally to ensure success the first time you try. It may sometimes be your only one chance.
Thanks Furkids for the encouragement and tips. Doa kan Pakcu k..hehe. Betul, Pakcu rasa kalau fail the 1st time, memang tak kan dapat lagi dah tu.. Ok, kain tu nak cover semua carrier tu ker, tak lemas? Harap2 Pakcu will not shivering, hands freeze or menggelabah bila nak trap tu.. hehe.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:19 PM
abgraldo abgraldo is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,931
Rep Power: 0
abgraldo is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by FurKids View Post
Tak leh dekat dan semua lari ya? In that case, you can forget about the carrier or cage sebab bila you tarik tali (the carrier and cage is very light) any slight vibration will cause the cat to dash out! That cat will skolah very fast, so will the other cats watching!

This type of scenario kena guna musang trap (it is heavy and long enough for the cat's tail to go far inside to eat the food placed at the extreme end becos you certainly do not want the heavy trap door to fall on si tomei's tail and injure it in any way!)

Musang traps banyak kat Sabah dan Sarawak, used by plantation ppl. Jabatan Penghilitan mesti ada perangkap tu, termasuk perangkap rimau dan gajah Pakcu cuba lah contact diorang dan pinjam ... kata yang musang cukup la, tak perlu yang rimau atau gajah ... too biiiiiiiiiig!


Ler.. Pakcu kat Pahang ler..hehe. Takkan nak gi Sabah/Swak kut nak pinjam trap.. hehe .Ok, pakcu cuba tanya kat perhilitan sini kut2 bole pinjam... Thanks furkids..
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:36 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Pakcu, unfortunately I do not have many pics of the trap ... the 4 attached shows my hensem Kotak Monster in it when I ran out of cages and had to put him in there temporarily. Not too uncomfy, but I had to balut the sharp hook and tie it securely so as not to offer any chances of accidents happening. I balut tebal-tebal the sharp point with dark green tape and used the red nylon rope to pull and tie it securely so that it cannot be lowered or move.

Kotak Monster lived in there after neutering with the low litter box filled with shredded newspaper and water bowl.

The last 3 pics show the heavy drop door.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	B71Trap01.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	44.7 KB
ID:	1516   Click image for larger version

Name:	B71Trap02.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	44.5 KB
ID:	1517   Click image for larger version

Name:	B71Trap03.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	43.2 KB
ID:	1518   Click image for larger version

Name:	B71Trap04.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	43.6 KB
ID:	1519  
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:37 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Ler.. Pakcu kat Pahang ler..hehe. Takkan nak gi Sabah/Swak kut nak pinjam trap.. hehe .Ok, pakcu cuba tanya kat perhilitan sini kut2 bole pinjam... Thanks furkids..
Ler, Pahang tu sama la mcm Sabah/Sarawak ... banyak hutan dan ladang ... mesti ader perangkap punya ...
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:46 PM
FurKids's Avatar
FurKids FurKids is offline
Pets Are NOT Disposable
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,041
Rep Power: 15
FurKids is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

Quote:
Originally Posted by abgraldo View Post
Thanks Furkids for the encouragement and tips. Doa kan Pakcu k..hehe. Betul, Pakcu rasa kalau fail the 1st time, memang tak kan dapat lagi dah tu.. Ok, kain tu nak cover semua carrier tu ker, tak lemas? Harap2 Pakcu will not shivering, hands freeze or menggelabah bila nak trap tu.. hehe.
Alahai, Pakcu, light breatheable fabric la, supaya dia tak nampak luar, big enuf to block all vision dan tak leh intai so that the cat will calm down considerably ... mcm setengah orang taruh kucing in pillowcase (yg jinak la) bila bawa ke klinik to help the cat stay calm.

The cat must not jump around and thrash in the trap, nanti isi perut dia tertumpah kena hook tu walaupun dibalut tebal-tebal. Musang tu mati diorang tak kira ... tapi Pakcu I am sure hendakkan sitomei tu hidup dan tak cedera kan? Kekekekeeekeeee!!!!!
__________________
"We organized in the past to make Trap-Neuter-Return possible. Today, we organize to make Trap-Neuter-Return the norm and to end the unnecessary killing of cats in animal shelters across the country and provide humane care." - Alley Cat Allies
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-22-2008, 04:52 PM
June June is offline
Animal Lover
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tmn Shamelin Perkasa-Kota Kinabalu
Posts: 6,004
Rep Power: 0
June is on a distinguished road
Default Pakcu need help

Aiseymen,pakcu.dulu saya ada trap yg mcm si FK cakap.ada org kat sini pasang perangkap nak bunuh kucing smp lemas.saya simpan adalah dlm 2 minggu sbg bahan bukti dan nak tangkap pesalahnya.pesalahnya dah caught in action so saya buang trap tu.huhuhuhu!!! rugi,rugi,rugi.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-22-2008, 05:13 PM
nik_tropicana's Avatar
nik_tropicana nik_tropicana is offline
PetFinder Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,146
Rep Power: 14
nik_tropicana is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pakcu need help

cuba pakcu bagi kucen nie makanan yang sedap2...dlu kat blok saya ade stray cat..ibu n 3 ekor anak dier...jiran2 geram sebab ade sekor anak kucen tu bulu panjang n suma kitten nie susah nak tangkap..jumpa orang terus masuk dalam longkang or bwh keta..makanan kucen yang lebih2 cam IAMS (BELL xske mkn IAMS so sedekah kat stray cat yang pek 3 kilo lbey), BW n RC kitten bagi kat dieorg..terus jinak ngan saya...kadang2 dengar bunyi bekas makanan pun dier da tunggu anak beranak kat tangga...tapi cara nie makan masa gak la...seminggu or 2 minggu bru ok..xpe..insyaallah ramai lagi forumer lain akan tolong pakcu bagi tips2 jinakkan kucen..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Happy Birthday, Pakcu Abralgado!!! blackie007 Coffee Room 22 09-16-2008 07:29 AM


All times are GMT +8. The time now is 08:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 

Main Site
Home
Advertising
Sponsored Listings
Sign Up
Find A Pet
Share & Save Lives
About PetFinder.my
Terms & Conditions
Freebies / Starter Pack
Report Animal Abuse
Contact Us
Facilities
WAGazine
Discussion Forum
Medical Fund
Pet Food, Toys & Products
Cuteness Meter
Central News Portal
Visual Map
Knowledge Library
Microchip Directory
FurryCards
Mobile
iPhone & iPod App
Android App

Social Media
Facebook
Twitter
KindMeal
Meat-Free Dining
Meal Deals
Kind Moments
Delicious Menu

Others
World Animal Day Contest
Digi iPhone Contest
East Coast Flood Relief
It's Pawssible
Freebies
Online Store
Discussions
Blacklists & Scams



Copyright © PetFinder.my. All rights reserved.