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What is Spay/Neuter

Spay: removing the ovaries and uterus of a female animal

Neuter: removing the testicles of a male animal (castrate)

'Altered' and 'Fixed' are used as a unisex term

If performed by a rabbit-savvy vet, these operations pose very little risk to a healthy rabbit

Why Spay/Neuter

Your rabbit will become sexually mature between the ages of 3 - 8 months. Sexually mature rabbits usually experience the following behavioural changes:
  • loss of good litterbox habits
  • increased aggression such as growling, lunging and biting
  • destructive chewing and digging
  • territorial markings with urine and droppings
  • spraying urine, especially male rabbits

Altering your rabbit will eliminate such unpleasant behaviours (males should be neutered soon after they start spraying. If you wait too long, spraying may become a habit and your rabbit may continue to spray even after it has been neutered).

Other benefits of altering your rabbit:
  • helps control the overpopulation of rabbits (unwanted rabbits are left at shelters or released into the wild, where the chances of survival are almost nil)
  • unspayed female rabbits above the age of 2 years are at great risks of developing uterine, ovarian and/or mammary cancer. Spaying virtually eliminates these risks
  • unneutered males may develop testicular cancer, although this is not nearly as common as uterine cancer in unspayed females. Neutering will help prevent this
  • increases your rabbit’s lifespan (a well-cared for altered house rabbit can live more than 10 years)
  • prevents false pregnancy
  • improves litter habits
  • eliminates strong urine odour
  • altered rabbits make better companions as they have a calmer personality
  • altered rabbits can have companions in other altered rabbits. Unaltered rabbits get too aggressive with rabbits of the same sex, and will breed with rabbits of the opposite sex

When to Spay/Neuter

Neutering can be done as soon as the testicles descend (around 5 months)

Spaying can be done from 6 months and above. It is best to spay your rabbit before it reaches 2 years of age due to the risks of cancer mentioned above.

Rabbits above 6 years of age are generally at a higher risk from surgery. It is advisable that rabbits above 2 years old undergo a thorough health check before any surgery is carried out on them, to detect whether any conditions exist which may make the surgery more risky.

Pre-operative Care
  • if you do not already have a regular rabbit-savvy vet, hunt or ask around for one. Ask the vets as many questions as you may have about the surgery, until you find a vet that you are comfortable with. Some questions to ask the vet: http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/s...good-questions
  • do not change your rabbit’s diet in any way during the weeks before surgery. Also, take note of your rabbit’s favourite vegetables or fruits
  • some experienced rabbit caregivers suggest giving the rabbit acidophilus for a couple of days prior to surgery, to ensure that the digestive system is functioning well. Acidophilus continues to be given after the surgery, until the rabbit’s appetite has returned to normal
  • DO NOT FAST your rabbit before surgery. Rabbits are unable to vomit so there is no risk of that during surgery, and a rabbit’s digestive tract should never be allowed to become empty
  • when you take your rabbit for surgery, bring along some of its regular food, water and a familiar toy or towel to make the environment as much like home as possible

Before Bringing Your Rabbit Home
  • while your rabbit is at the vet, use this opportunity to thoroughly clean its space. A clean environment is important to prevent your rabbit’s incision from becoming infected
  • clean out your rabbit’s litter box and prepare fresh litter for it. This will help you to monitor its urine and droppings
  • evaluate your rabbit’s environment to minimize the need for drastic movements, such as jumping e.g. create a ‘step’ for your rabbit to get into a high litter box or into its cage, temporarily shut off access to other levels if your rabbit has a multi-leveled cage
  • stock up on your rabbit’s favourite vegetables and fruits

Post-operative Care
  • try to bring your rabbit home the same day as the surgery so that it may recover in a familiar environment
  • keep the environment quiet so as not to startle your rabbit
  • provide your rabbit with its usual food as soon as it returns home, although some rabbits (especially females) may not be ready to eat so soon
  • many rabbits will not use their water bottle following a surgery as it may be too much work for them to lift their heads. Make sure a water bowl is also available nearby
  • the following morning, or at latest by the next evening, it is important for your rabbit to start drinking and eating (even small nibbles are fine, as long as it eats something) so that its digestive tract doesn’t shut down. Tempt your rabbit with its favourite vegetables and fruit. Consult your vet immediately if your rabbit does not eat or drink within 24 hours
  • monitor your rabbit’s droppings and contact your vet if very few or none are produced. Droppings tend to be smaller in size & irregularly shaped after surgery and will gradually increase back to the normal size within a week or so
  • inspect the incision daily. Bring your rabbit to the vet immediately if you notice any discharge, bleeding or torn stitches. Most vets use intradermal sutures (sutures beneath the skin), but some rabbits still manage to pull these out
  • to prevent your rabbit from chewing its stitches, you may use an elastic bandage to wrap your female rabbit’s abdomen snugly for the first 2 or 3 days after surgery. Some vets may suggest an e-collar for male rabbits but from my personal experience, the rabbit gets a bit disoriented with the collar on, and it will also be unable to eat/drink from its food/water bowl. I removed the e-collar within the same day, and luckily my male rabbit did not chew off its stitches. I used the elastic bandage on my female rabbit and she was perfectly comfortable with it
  • if your male rabbit’s scrotum become slightly swollen after its surgery, apply a warm compress to the area to help relief the pain
  • make sure your rabbit does not get cold. If it does, try warming up a towel in the dryer and use it to cover your rabbit
  • newly spayed female rabbits should be kept away from male rabbits (neutered or not) for at least 14 days, as serious internal damage can be caused by a male mounting her
  • neutered males remain fertile for 4 - 8 weeks after surgery, so do not place them with any intact females during this time
  • if you intend to bond your newly altered rabbit with another altered rabbit, wait at least 1 month after surgery for the wound to heal, and for the hormone levels to decrease
  • during recovery, spend lots of time petting and comforting your rabbit
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:05 PM
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rascal aka t-rex and nee nee are both spayed and neuter
but still they show sign of aggressive and big bully!

my bit bit nope i dont think he is.... but he show no sign of aggressive probably all this while because he was a loner...... just me and him

Then came this two - nightmare to him... they disturb & bully him

i thought i can put rascal and him together - nope cannot - disaster
i try socializing the gal and him - also cannot - the gal can scratch him and make him very angry....

so i guess my bit bit only wants me :)
so i'll be his gf and companion
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Hmm.. sounds more like bonding issues than true aggressive behaviour (examples of true aggressive behaviour is a bunny who bites its owner without any reason, growls when its owner tries to pet it, etc)

Rabbits need time to accept another rabbit into their territory. They need to go through a bonding process and they must be introduced to each other in a neutral territory (i.e. some area where neither rabbit has been before). The bonding process can take up to months with certain rabbits.

Before attempting to bond a pair of rabbits, it is best if both rabbits have been fixed. Smelling the hormones in one of the rabbits can cause the other rabbit to react negatively.

Buttons wanted to kill Yohji when I tried to introduce them prior to their spay & neuter. She had a 'mad dog' look in her eyes and only wanted to attack him. I stopped bonding after that and waited til they had undergone their surgeries. After they healed from their surgeries, they bonded in less than 2 weeks.

I'm going to wait til Hans has been neutered before introducing him to the duo. Fingers crossed it goes well.

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wah Buttons want to kill Yohji aikssssss
but i notice the female are a big bully to the males hor
same like hamsters.... female tend to be more dominant than the male :)

its nice to mix all together - the only time when i mix all together is when my bit bit became a father when i brought to two back... he was like in the center of attention :)
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ada sesiapa tak yang tahu vet yang boleh neuter/spay rabbit area kajang@bangi@putrajaya@serdang yang beri servis yang bagus dan harga yang berpatutan?
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Here's the contact:

HESHMAEL CLINIC FOR PETS SDN BHD
21-1, Dataran Sunway, Jln PJU 5/13, Kota Damansara, 47000 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Phone: 03-6156 2478

Around RM200 (Price may vary a bit depending on each individual case)
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wabit yang saya nak nuter ni ada bau hancing kat bontot die. tempat lain xada bau. adakah bau ni disebabkan die belum dineuterkan?
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saya ada jumpa klinik vet yang buleh neuter wabit. cost dia cuma rm70. tapi dia pakai suntikan pelali. apa pendapat you all? ok ke X? boleh tak saya buat kat vet ni?
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orang Islam tak boleh 'kasi'kan binatang.Berdosa...
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Betul ke?? cuba awak chk betul2 sebelum post kat sini.


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Betul ke?? cuba awak chk betul2 sebelum post kat sini.
lahiriah haiwan itu ingin membiak, jika sifat yang diberikan untuknya membiak itu ditidakkan, maka perlakuan mengkasi haiwan itu seperti mengubah ciptaan Tuhan. perkara ini dikecualikan jika haiwan itu ingin di gemukkan bagi tujuan penyembelih daging atau jika tidak dikasi, haiwan itu akan sakit/mati.

kepada yg x tau dan dah buat tak apa, saya hanya bagi tau.
sebagai manusia pon, rasanya mesti ada keinginan untuk memperoleh zuriat, begitu juga haiwan...
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lahiriah haiwan itu ingin membiak, jika sifat yang diberikan untuknya membiak itu ditidakkan, maka perlakuan mengkasi haiwan itu seperti mengubah ciptaan Tuhan. perkara ini dikecualikan jika haiwan itu ingin di gemukkan bagi tujuan penyembelih daging atau jika tidak dikasi, haiwan itu akan sakit/mati.

kepada yg x tau dan dah buat tak apa, saya hanya bagi tau.
sebagai manusia pon, rasanya mesti ada keinginan untuk memperoleh zuriat, begitu juga haiwan...


iceburn,jgn keluarkan FATWA sendiri,JAKIM sendiri yang keluarkan FATWA bahawa harus mengkasikan haiwan walaupun haiwan tu haram dimakan....tak tau la kot2 awk lg terer dri ulama2 kat jakim nak sangkal FATWA tu..
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tolong jangan buat fatwa sendiri yer.. dalam klinik Gill's Penang pun de psl nie..

dipetik dari perbincangan arisham..::::
What Islam said about Neutering Pets?

We have referred to the "Jawatankuasa Kemajuan Islam Malaysia" regarding the neutering of pets.

Below is the "fatwa" issued by JAKIM (July 2002):

"All pets like cats and dogs are allowed to be neutered or spayed in order to maintain the health and

welfare of both the animals and the community."

"Bahawa mengembiri binatang kesayangan seperti kucing atau anjing hukumnya adalah diharuskan

dengan sebab-sebab tertentu iaitu bagi menjaga muslahat ummah."

After studying the messages of the aforementioned "mazhab"s and the medical viewpoint, 'JAKIM' has decided that neutering of cats for reasons of 'maslahat' is acceptable. It is in agreement with 'qaedah' (way) Fiqhiyyah which states "To choose the lesser of two evils".

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Sedangkan Allah Subahanahu Wataa’ala melarang memakan harta orang lain dengan jalan yang bathil.Termasuk menjual barang yang tidak ada manfaatnya ialah menjual serangga kecil yang melata di bumi seperti kumbang, ular, kala jengking, tikus, dan semut. Syara’ tidak memandang sebagai ada manfaatnya pada serangga-serangga tersebut.Tidak sah diperjualbelikan setiap binatang buas seperti singa, serigala atau burung yang tidak boleh dimanfaatkan seperti burung rajawali dan burung gagak, iaitu binatang atau burung yang tidak boleh dimakan.

Adapun binatang atau burung yang boleh dimanfaatkan sah diperjualbelikan seperti harimau bintang digunakan untuk memburu, gajah untuk berperang, monyet untuk memetik buah-buahan atau menjaga, lebah untuk diambil madunya, burung anthalib ( bulbul/murai ) untuk berseronok-seronok dengan suaranya, burung merak untuk berseronok-seronok dengan bulunya dan lintah untuk menghisap darah orang sakit.( lihat Mughti Al- Muhtaj2/15 dan Kifayah Al-Akhyar 234-235 )

Khas mengenai kucing, menurut Yusuf Al-Ardibili di dalam Al- Anwar li A’mal Al- Abrar 1/213-214, mengatakan:

Ertinya: “ Sah jual beli binatang ternakan, kuda, baghal, keldai, kijang, anak kijang, burung helang (bazah), rajawali, gajah, harimau bintang, monyet, kucing, merpati, burung-burung, lintah, ulat sutera, binatang yang gunanya untuk hiburan kerana warnanya seperti burungmerak, atau kerana suaranya seperti zurzur ( burung tiung ),” andalib ( bulbul/murai ) dan burung kakak tua.”Maka berdasarkan nash kitab Al-anwar di atas adalah sah diperjualbelikan binatang kucing peliharaan, tetapi bukan kucing hutan atau kucing liar.


I spoke to JAKIM last year, regarding this...yes they agreed that selling/buying cats for hobby is HARUS. However, not for wild cats. The cat must be tamed, train or developed for specific use..in this case, for hobby.
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lahiriah haiwan itu ingin membiak, jika sifat yang diberikan untuknya membiak itu ditidakkan, maka perlakuan mengkasi haiwan itu seperti mengubah ciptaan Tuhan. perkara ini dikecualikan jika haiwan itu ingin di gemukkan bagi tujuan penyembelih daging atau jika tidak dikasi, haiwan itu akan sakit/mati.

kepada yg x tau dan dah buat tak apa, saya hanya bagi tau.
sebagai manusia pon, rasanya mesti ada keinginan untuk memperoleh zuriat, begitu juga haiwan...
tolong la jgn samakan manusia dgn haiwan

kucing memang ada keinginan nak mengawan dan membiak
tetapi takde akal fikiran mcm mana nak teruskan hidup dan
kasi makan anak2 dia nanti. Akibatnya banyak kucing yg terbiar merata2
sebagai manusia yg punya akal fikiran, sanggupkah tengok keadaan ini ?

ada yg kata *dosa tau....kasi/kembiri kucing...kucing I tak kembiri pun, sbb mak I ckp mcm tu*
tapi bila kucing dah banyak tak terbela sbb tak cukup masa
tak cukup bajet dan tak cukup ruang untuk menempatkan mereka
ada yg membuang kucing2 ni di pasar, tepi jalan, tepi longkang dan
ada jugak yg sengaja tinggalkan kucing2 tu bila berpindah rumah mcm tu saja

yang mana lagi berdosa ? kembiri kucing ke...buang / biarkan kucing hidup melarat ?

kat forum ni pun ada cerita pasal fatwa jakim yg dikeluarkan di tahun 2000.
rajin rajinlah mem'browse'nya......
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alfian n bella...very very well said
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iceburn,jgn keluarkan FATWA sendiri,JAKIM sendiri yang keluarkan FATWA bahawa harus mengkasikan haiwan walaupun haiwan tu haram dimakan....tak tau la kot2 awk lg terer dri ulama2 kat jakim nak sangkal FATWA tu..
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tolong la jgn samakan manusia dgn haiwan

kucing memang ada keinginan nak mengawan dan membiak
tetapi takde akal fikiran mcm mana nak teruskan hidup dan
kasi makan anak2 dia nanti. Akibatnya banyak kucing yg terbiar merata2
sebagai manusia yg punya akal fikiran, sanggupkah tengok keadaan ini ?

ada yg kata *dosa tau....kasi/kembiri kucing...kucing I tak kembiri pun, sbb mak I ckp mcm tu*
tapi bila kucing dah banyak tak terbela sbb tak cukup masa
tak cukup bajet dan tak cukup ruang untuk menempatkan mereka
ada yg membuang kucing2 ni di pasar, tepi jalan, tepi longkang dan
ada jugak yg sengaja tinggalkan kucing2 tu bila berpindah rumah mcm tu saja

yang mana lagi berdosa ? kembiri kucing ke...buang / biarkan kucing hidup melarat ?

kat forum ni pun ada cerita pasal fatwa jakim yg dikeluarkan di tahun 2000.
rajin rajinlah mem'browse'nya......

wsalam,
saya tak keluarkan fatwa. saya hanya katakan ianya berdosa.
yang saya cakap pasal kembirikan arnab, sebab thread kembiri ni dari thread arnab. arnab binatang HALAL dimakan, jika tidak mahu memelihara arnab yang banyak, boleh disembelih dan dimakan. saya tidak juruskan kepada kembirikan kucing, sebab thread ini dibawah thread arnab.
HALAL atau HARAM daging arnab?
gerakan bukan ISLAM cuba meniupkan fahaman 'jangan makan daging arnab', kesian tengok arnab yang comel dijadikan menu makanan.
sampaikan orang ISLAM banyak yg terikut² fahaman ini. kalau taknak makan takpa, jgn ajak orang lain tak makan sekali, jangan kata daging arnab macam kucing la, semua ini akan menutup periuk nasi orang lain....
Yang menyokong kembirikan arnab kebanyakannya breeeders yang tidak mengkembirikan induk arnabnya sendiri, kenapa? supaya orang lain tidak dapat biakkan baka yang dia ada... jangan tanya saya bangsa mana yang buat bisnes camtu... saya bukan racist...

Sekali lagi saya tegaskan, apa yg saya cuba cakap dalam posting sebelum ini mungkin disalah anggap, saya menekankan kepada mengkembirikan arnab...
HALAL tetap HALAL...
minta maaf jika tulisan saya disalah anggap
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saya sambung sikit lagi,
jika kita tidak mahu memelihara anak arnab/arnab yang sudah besar, kita boleh sedekahkan ke orang-orang susah yang makan arnab. ramai orang susah kat Malaysia yang takda hal nak makan arnab... kalau pasal kucing, saya tak tau la orang mana yang makan...

daging arnab tinggi protein dan berkhasiat, terbukti dapat menyembuhkan/mengawal beberapa penyakit(asma, lelah, diebetes). dengan kandungan kolestrol dan lemak yang rendah, daging arnab baik untuk penjagaan kesihatan.
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better cik iceburn baca dlu fatwa jakim yang full,kat situ dah terang2 ada tulis dibolehkan mengembirikan haiwan kesayangan dan haiwan ternakan...haiwan ternakan dibolehkan bg mendapatkan dagingnya,bg haiwan kesayangan pula sebb mengawal populasi....sy sensitif skit bab agam,sbb tu sy cri dlu fatwa jakim,baru post kat sini,bukannya membuta tuli mengeluarkan hukum mengembirikan arnab haram
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better cik iceburn baca dlu fatwa jakim yang full,kat situ dah terang2 ada tulis dibolehkan mengembirikan haiwan kesayangan dan haiwan ternakan...haiwan ternakan dibolehkan bg mendapatkan dagingnya,bg haiwan kesayangan pula sebb mengawal populasi....sy sensitif skit bab agam,sbb tu sy cri dlu fatwa jakim,baru post kat sini,bukannya membuta tuli mengeluarkan hukum mengembirikan arnab haram
awak ada bela arnab pedaging yang dikembirikan ker? dimana ladang? kalau boleh saya nak datang melawat.
saya tak kata haram, cuma berdosa bila niat mengembirikan haiwan tidak jelas.
khilaf ulama didalam permasalahan sebegini sering berlaku. saya faham dengan fatwa yang awak copy dari JAKIM, cuma saya menjelaskan apa yang penternak arnab BUMIPUTERA lalui sekarang. serangan dari bukan ISLAM cuba untuk menjatuhkan perniagaan kami, sedikit sebanyak saya juga terasa bila rakan² ternak bangsa saya mengadu nasib ditabur pasir dalam periuk nasi...
awak tahu selama 15tahun hanya ada seorang sahaja pembekal daging arnab di MALAYSIA, 15tahun! bukan sehari dua... siapa pembekal daging itu? yang nyata beliau bukan orang MELAYU apatah lagi bukan orang ISLAM...
saya menyatakan permasalah ini diatas nama haiwan bernama ARNAB, tidak ada kena mengena dengan pemelihara kucing, anjing(saya pon ada bela) atau apa jenis haiwan lain...

sekali lagi ditekan kan... kalau tidak mahu arnab anda banyak, sedekah dengan orang yang memerlukan, jangan fikir pentingkan diri sendiri, kalau anda tidak larat atau tidak tergamak nak makan arnab, jangan jaja nama buruk daging arnab...
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