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Old 06-19-2009, 07:41 PM
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Ya....aku sokong !!!(ini tak, awal2 thread lg duk nuduh org lain, bikin panas jerr) tu la dikatakn kuman diseberang laut nmpk... gajah lalu didepan mata x nmpk..... hahahahahahahahahaha... buta la katakan...mengata dulang paku serpih... ngata org huhuhuhuhuhu....sapa yg lobih???? Maleh eden mau cita...BYB la katakan... oucchhh...pedasssss.....


~CB...BYB...CB...BYB...CB...BYB...CB...BYB...CB... BYB...CB...BYB...~
Sha...I pun sokong sangat....... konon konon mereka fight for the right of puppy n kitten, akhir akhir pun promosi untuk diri sendiri supaya lebih orang beli dari CB......
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:47 PM
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Saya nak Tegas keras disini......dengar betul- betul!!!!!!!
saya tak sokong BYB dan Tak jugak perangi mereka. Becouse of keberlambakkan kucing-kucing terbiar sebenarnyer bukan lah daripada BYB sepenuhnyer....faktor utamanya adalah daripada kucing2 kampung asal yang terbiar tanpa tuan. Buktinya ialah ada kamu nampak kucing terbiar itu berbulu panjang macam percian atau menyerupai mana2 kucing baka? kalau ada pun lebih kecil dari 5%. maybe 1%. HEY kalau ade pun dah lama orang kebas bawak balik umah.....he he he

kalau u all nak stopkan kucing terbiar tu manakan boleh.....sama seperti kite nak stopkan rasuah......tak boleh langsung kebarangkalian adalah 0. nak kurangkan maybe boleh!!!!.Bukan masalah tak cuba tak tau........u all dah mati pun masalah tu masih ada. masalah kucing terbiar ni dari kite belum lahir pun sudah ada. Mereka adalah haiwan rimba.....so hukum rimba telah dibawa ke alam manusia so mereka kena bersaing untuk hidup....so yang tak tahan akan kurus dan mati.

kalau u all nak kurangkan masalah kucing terbiar ni boleh tapi susah kot....iaitu dengan menggerakkan semua orang kat malaysia ni tangkap kucing2 yang dijumpai....samada hantar ke pusat haiwan seperti SPCA atau dilupuskan. jika ditempatkan kesemua kucing tu kat SPCA manakan muat.....beribu oiii sapa nak sponcer makanan....so masalah ni kenalah orang yang memperjuangkan kucing terbiar nie selesaikan...cadangan saya ialah kumpulkan breeder2 ni rasa saya beribu orang...setiap bulan seorang keluarkan RM100...so kalau seribu orang dah RM100,000 ade berani. kata orang kuat kucing, takkan sebulan keluar Rm100 pun tak bolehhhh. sekali lunch kat Sturbuck pun dah hampir-hampir Rm100. so SPCA pun tak de lah masalah lg.

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Old 06-19-2009, 08:01 PM
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Saya nak Tegas keras disini......dengar betul- betul!!!!!!!
saya tak sokong BYB dan Tak jugak perangi mereka. Becouse of keberlambakkan kucing-kucing terbiar sebenarnyer bukan lah daripada BYB sepenuhnyer....faktor utamanya adalah daripada kucing2 kampung asal yang terbiar tanpa tuan. Buktinya ialah ada kamu nampak kucing terbiar itu berbulu panjang macam percian atau menyerupai mana2 kucing baka? kalau ada pun lebih kecil dari 5%. maybe 1%. HEY kalau ade pun dah lama orang kebas bawak balik umah.....he he he

kalau u all nak stopkan kucing terbiar tu manakan boleh.....sama seperti kite nak stopkan rasuah......tak boleh langsung kebarangkalian adalah 0. nak kurangkan maybe boleh!!!!.Bukan masalah tak cuba tak tau........u all dah mati pun masalah tu masih ada. masalah kucing terbiar ni dari kite belum lahir pun sudah ada. Mereka adalah haiwan rimba.....so hukum rimba telah dibawa ke alam manusia so mereka kena bersaing untuk hidup....so yang tak tahan akan kurus dan mati.

kalau u all nak hentikan masalah kucing terbiar ni boleh tapi mustahil....iaitu dengan menggerakkan semua orang kat malaysia ni tangkap kucing2 yang dijumpai....samada hantar ke pusat haiwan seperti SPCA atau dilupuskan. jika ditempatkan kesemua kucing tu kat SPCA manakan muat.....beribu oiii sapa nak sponcer makanan....so masalah ni kenalah orang yang memperjuangkan kucing terbiar nie selesaikan...cadangan saya ialah kumpulkan breeder2 ni rasa saya beribu orang...setiap bulan seorang keluarkan RM100...so kalau seribu orang dah RM100,000 ade berani. kata orang kuat kucing, takkan sebulan keluar Rm100 pun tak bolehhhh. sekali lunch kat Sturbuck pun dah hampir-hampir Rm100. so SPCA pun tak de lah masalah lg.
Yeaa....!!! bila nk wat "KEMPEN KUTIP DONATION RM100" tu???? X sabaq nk tgk thread tu pulak kt PF nih..... blh bg duit kt SPCA... sibuk BYB... yg stray blambak kt pasar Borong, medan makan & banyak lg tempat2 lain xmo amik pedulik...siap ada yg kna lupuskan lg... mcm smph lak... wat mcm 1 forummer ni tangkp sumer stray keliling umah p spay kan... sonang.....

STRAY ---> DIKUTIP OLH PETSHOP -----> RAWATAN-----> JUAL = BYB ???
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:21 PM
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Haaa ada lagi satu ni.......mengenai bertambahnyer bilangan kucing terbiar ni...............nak tanya all of you, kalau Zaman dahulu bolehlah dikatakan serba kurang....jalan raya pun kereta kurang, pengguna telepon bimbit kurang, kesesakan jalan kurang, rakyat malaysia pun kurang wooooo.
Sikalang nak tanya u all apa yang tak kurang?????? semua naik woooooo
petrol naik,kereta berjuta, sesak sana sini, orang malaysia pun dah lebih 25 juta kot......gaji pun nak naik, untung pun nak lebih......apalagi kucing,,,,,,bertambah lah jugak kah kah kah

Cuma Kasih sayang yang makin kurang kott

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Old 06-19-2009, 09:25 PM
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Jamal,

I agree with some of what you said, and disagree with others.

Ok, what I agree....the part about starting a donation from breeders. Please start a new thread on this(this thread is about stopping the unethical breeding), and this is what we can do.

01) Gather all the breeders in that thread. Talk to them. Educate them on ethical breeding.
02) Get commitment from them to donate RM100 a month to this tabung for strays.
03) Form an NGO, because only NGOs can collect donations.
04) Then, gather volunteers to help in the TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) project, because TNR is effective.
05) (more suggestions can be discussed at the new thread to be started by Jamal)

I disagree that we can't stop kucing terbiar. Maybe we can't stop it in our lifetime, but if we educate everyone, down to our children, grandchildren, one day, there will be no kucing terbiar.

Why do I feel so strongly about all this unethical breeding and owners not neutering their pets?

Because, I always see a lot of kucing terbiar at Pasar Borong, Selayang. When I feed them, the fierce ones will bite the timid ones. There's one, muka tercakar, berdarah at the 7-11, and I cried when I saw this poor little kitten.

And I've also seen, twice, very young kittens crouching in fear in the middle of busy main roads.....I had to stop my car and pick them up or they'll be hit by the cars. The poor little dears were crying for their meowmmies....

And I also disagree about the BYB not contributing to the number of strays. The BYBs have a tendency to mate a DLH with another DLH. When you mix a DLH with anohter DLH, there's a chance you get a DSH. I read it somewhere before. Will post it here once I find those articles again.

So, cannot sell DSH, what happens? Kucing terbiarlah.

And let's not forget....the living conditions of the breeding cats in the BYB and kitten mills. Do you want to live your life in a small little cage for the rest of your life, and never ever set foot outside your cage??

So, let's come back to the topic of this thread. And I look forward to the new thread you'll be starting.

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kalau u all nak stopkan kucing terbiar tu manakan boleh.....sama seperti kite nak stopkan rasuah......tak boleh langsung kebarangkalian adalah 0. nak kurangkan maybe boleh!!!!.Bukan masalah tak cuba tak tau........u all dah mati pun masalah tu masih ada. masalah kucing terbiar ni dari kite belum lahir pun sudah ada. Mereka adalah haiwan rimba.....so hukum rimba telah dibawa ke alam manusia so mereka kena bersaing untuk hidup....so yang tak tahan akan kurus dan mati.

kalau u all nak hentikan masalah kucing terbiar ni boleh tapi mustahil....iaitu dengan menggerakkan semua orang kat malaysia ni tangkap kucing2 yang dijumpai....samada hantar ke pusat haiwan seperti SPCA atau dilupuskan. jika ditempatkan kesemua kucing tu kat SPCA manakan muat.....beribu oiii sapa nak sponcer makanan....so masalah ni kenalah orang yang memperjuangkan kucing terbiar nie selesaikan...cadangan saya ialah kumpulkan breeder2 ni rasa saya beribu orang...setiap bulan seorang keluarkan RM100...so kalau seribu orang dah RM100,000 ade berani. kata orang kuat kucing, takkan sebulan keluar Rm100 pun tak bolehhhh. sekali lunch kat Sturbuck pun dah hampir-hampir Rm100. so SPCA pun tak de lah masalah lg.

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Old 06-19-2009, 09:28 PM
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Trendy Pet itself is a puppy & kitty mill not just a supporter of BYB. Just like him there are many Pet Shops who are actually BYB or Puppy/Kitty Mill themselves. Petsmore pets come from both BYB & Pet Mill & this is no secret.
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I forgot to add that Trendy Pet Shop, a pet shop I boycott becos they support BYB, is owned by a Chinese man.

As I said before, it doesn't matter whether you are Chinese, Indian, Malay or others, I will speak out without fear or favour.

And there is another pet shop, too, owned by a Chinese lady, that is not ethical and needs to be exposed, but I'm just waiting for that forumner to share her experience here. All I heard is through third party, so please, will the person come forward to share what she knows.
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Wow!! Then, even more reason for me myself to boycott this Mr Chang & Mr Lock.

This is Trendy Pet Shop.....if you are against BYB or puppy/kitten mills, please make your own decision whether you want to shop there or not.

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Trendy Pet itself is a puppy & kitty mill not just a supporter of BYB. Just like him there are many Pet Shops who are actually BYB or Puppy/Kitty Mill themselves. Petsmore pets come from both BYB & Pet Mill & this is no secret.

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ok....so now please write down to me the list of pet shop name who do not support or not a BYB. just for reference thanks
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Let's do it together since there are so many pet shops. I am going to check out a few this weekend. You do the same, too.

For those who are interested in the well-being of the pets, please share what you know, too. Thanks.

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ok....so now please write down to me the list of pet shop name who do not support or not a BYB. just for reference thanks
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Let's do it together since there are so many pet shops. I am going to check out a few this weekend. You do the same, too.

For those who are interested in the well-being of the pets, please share what you know, too. Thanks.
since u had too many petshop listed as BYB/kitty mill, how dare u said to me u dont have any unBYB petshop? white list one.......if i do what u have done such as black list and boycod the shop.....i think my cats being dying right now....where else i should go to buy food, litter sand and so on. tell me now!!!!!!
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Excuse me,

I have been nothing but polite with you despite your aggressive stance in your post below (2nd one). Who are you to ask me "how dare I" now. My mother? My grandmother? Even my mum and granny say please and thank you to me. And they apologise to me if they are in the wrong. That is what they taught me, to say please, thank you, and apologise.

We have already listed 2 pet shops that don't support BYB or are not BYBs in Ethical Pet Shop thread. But since you are not interested in those 2, and I do not know where you live, I can't help you. And if you are sincere about boycotting pet shops that support BYB or are BYB, then you would do your own homework, like I do, and not expect to be spoon-fed.

If you do not wish to continue this discussion in a polite manner, please refrain from posting here.

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since u had too many petshop listed as BYB/kitty mill, how dare u said to me u dont have any unBYB petshop? white list one.......if i do what u have done such as black list and boycod the shop.....i think my cats being dying right now....where else i should go to buy food, litter sand and so on. tell me now!!!!!!
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Saya nak Tegas keras disini......dengar betul- betul!!!!!!!
saya tak sokong BYB dan Tak jugak perangi mereka. Becouse of keberlambakkan kucing-kucing terbiar sebenarnyer bukan lah daripada BYB sepenuhnyer....faktor utamanya adalah daripada kucing2 kampung asal yang terbiar tanpa tuan. Buktinya ialah ada kamu nampak kucing terbiar itu berbulu panjang macam percian atau menyerupai mana2 kucing baka? kalau ada pun lebih kecil dari 5%. maybe 1%. HEY kalau ade pun dah lama orang kebas bawak balik umah.....he he he

kalau u all nak stopkan kucing terbiar tu manakan boleh.....sama seperti kite nak stopkan rasuah......tak boleh langsung kebarangkalian adalah 0. nak kurangkan maybe boleh!!!!.Bukan masalah tak cuba tak tau........u all dah mati pun masalah tu masih ada. masalah kucing terbiar ni dari kite belum lahir pun sudah ada. Mereka adalah haiwan rimba.....so hukum rimba telah dibawa ke alam manusia so mereka kena bersaing untuk hidup....so yang tak tahan akan kurus dan mati.

kalau u all nak kurangkan masalah kucing terbiar ni boleh tapi susah kot....iaitu dengan menggerakkan semua orang kat malaysia ni tangkap kucing2 yang dijumpai....samada hantar ke pusat haiwan seperti SPCA atau dilupuskan. jika ditempatkan kesemua kucing tu kat SPCA manakan muat.....beribu oiii sapa nak sponcer makanan....so masalah ni kenalah orang yang memperjuangkan kucing terbiar nie selesaikan...cadangan saya ialah kumpulkan breeder2 ni rasa saya beribu orang...setiap bulan seorang keluarkan RM100...so kalau seribu orang dah RM100,000 ade berani. kata orang kuat kucing, takkan sebulan keluar Rm100 pun tak bolehhhh. sekali lunch kat Sturbuck pun dah hampir-hampir Rm100. so SPCA pun tak de lah masalah lg.

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I don't know about you guys, but these sentences really get to me.

----------extracted from Trendy Pet Shop's website---------
COMPANY BRIEF

With what started of as a mere pet lovers of cute little Chihuahuas, it has now being evolved into a ‘large scale and on going concern’ cumulating in the birth of TRENDY PET SDN BHD itself on 13th November 2003.

The metamorphosis from the hobby-cum-interest have turned into one of the leading enterprises ultimately involved in the large scale pet breeding, pet cages, products and its accessories is clearly the winning foresight of our founders.

TRENDY PET SDN BHD has assembled a team of qualified professionals who are dedicated and fully committed to discharge their professional and responsibilities with the ultimate aim of ensuring and enhancing the joys and happiness of all our pet-loving clienteles.


KEY MANAGEMENT PROFILES

CHAN YAN CHOONG
DIRECTOR

Mr Chan began his career as an apprenticeship in metal works after his secondary school in year 1980. Subsequently he left after 3 years of apprenticeship with the company and joined another company as a Supervisor.
In year 2003, Mr Chan joined Trendy Pet Sdn Bhd as a Pet Accessories Engineer. Throughout the years with the company, he has passion in pets and a very business minded entrepreneur has now springhead him in capitalizing his hobby into one of the leading players in the pet industry.

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SUDAH...SUDAH LA TU YOU ALL...
KAK ZAI TAK TAHAN LAGI TENGOK FORUM NI JADI MACAM NI
OUR KAMPONG USED TO BE SO AMAN DAMAI...BUT NOW TAK LAGI..
KENAPA LEPAS SATU, SATU THREAD DIJADIKAN TEMPAT BERTIKAM LIDAH, MELUAHKAN RASA TAK PUASHATI, GUNA BAHASA KESAT, SEBUT 'BANGSA'..
DI MANA PERGINYA RASA HORMAT MENGHORMATI SESAMA KITA ?
MOST OF YOU ARE PROFESSIONALS..GURU SEKOLAH, TAPI KENAPA TIDAK MENGGAMBARKAN PERIBADI SEORANG PENDIDIK ? WHY ARE YOU BEHAVING SO CHILDISH ? I M SURE THERES A NICER WAY TO DISCUSS THINGS..LIKE WHAT WE WERE THOUGHT IN SCHOOL AND THATS HOW WE WERE BROUGHT UP RIGHT ? TO RESPECT EACH OTHER, NO MATTER WHAT RACE OR RELIGION ???


TO ME, FORUM TEMPAT BERKONGSI MAKLUMAT DAN PENDAPAT. AT THE SAME TIME MEET NEW PEOPLE, WIDEN OUR HORIZONS, BUKAN TEMPAT CARI MUSUH ATAU TUNJUK 'LANGSI'. sETIAP KALI BUKAK pf SKRG NI, KEPALA KAK ZAI JADI BERTAMBAH KACAU...SO....WHATS THE POINT ? INGATKAN LEPAS HABIS THREAD IMADI DAN PAKCU, ADA LAH SIKIT KEDAMAIAN DI SINI, BUT NOW THIS. HOW LONG ITS GOING TO GO ON LIKE THIS...????

I AM REALLY DISSAPOINTED WITH YOU GUYS...

THANKS...

HAVE A NICE WEEKEND ....
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Agreed with Kak Zai,

Mungking bebenang ni pun patut di kunci kemas-kemas..
Tak penat ke taip panjang-panjang nak marah? U all ni...
Pekata berdiskusi dengan aman damai dan harmoni..
Tengok gambar kucing lagi best..

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here, let me provide the URL link of the Trendy Pet Shop post that I want to discuss.

Only those who are able to have a decent discussion need participate. Thank you.
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I have removed all the 'Personal Attacks' on this thread.

Please stop all such attacks now... If you can't discuss without personal attacks, please refrain from any discussions....

Remember, if you don't agree with someone, it's perfectly fine.. just don't agree on the points raised.. no need to add 'expletives' or 'personal attacks' like 'bodoh, silly, kurang ajar, etc, etc.. '

Let me show you all an example on a proper discussion:

Ezer: I love the moon. It's so beautiful because it's blue and triangular in shape.

Doggy: Ah, Ezer, with all due respect, I don't think the moon is triangular or blue in color.

Ezer: Oh? You don't think so? Perhaps we are looking at it from a different perspective? But I am pretty sure it's triangular..

Doggy: Ah, well, let's agree to disagree.. I am sure the moon is round.


See... even though I am wrong, Doggy was nice to me.. he didn't say things like 'Ezer, you're such an idiot.. never go to school one ah.. the moon is round lah.. dumb ass'...

Now, if Doggy had said that I'll probably reply with, 'You Mo'F' Bitch.. I know the moon is triangular lah... You're upsetting me now.. and I am angry with you.. I am gonna whack your ass'

See how it goes?...
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Eh Ezer,

You deleted those posts......that was quick. I think some drama is good for spicing up life. Don't blame them. We don't have enough bad soap opera on TV. :)

P/s: With all due respect, you have just removed a huge chunk of traffic ---there were lots of eye balls here, before you removed those "interesting" posts. :)

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LOL Blackie...

Traffic is good but not when it comes with bad blood...

We can have drama.. but not personal attacks which is a violations of the TOS..

Peace!
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I remember the day when I first decided to go all out to educate the public between pedigree & non pedigree, especially the DLH as claim by many BYB & pet shops as Persian. It wasn’t easy as there were instantly immediate attack from all these sectors.

Let me tell you why? The moment the public are more aware & knowledgeable of what is pedigree & not, it became harder for the unethical breeder & pet shop to short change the buyer. This had reduced the extremely high profit they make from selling DLH. Off coz we heard about them complaining how hard it is to make a living nowadays, but to me deceiving a buyer is plainly con & not about making a decent living. As much as many had claim they had learn a lot from the forum & are able to make better decision but sad to say there are many more been sucker by these unethical breeders & pet shops everyday. So the saying goes, a sucker born every minute had as much truth.
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I remember the day when I first decided to go all out to educate the public between pedigree & non pedigree, especially the DLH as claim by many BYB & pet shops as Persian. It wasn’t easy as there were instantly immediate attack from all these sectors.

Let me tell you why? The moment the public are more aware & knowledgeable of what is pedigree & not, it became harder for the unethical breeder & pet shop to short change the buyer. This had reduced the extremely high profit they make from selling DLH. Off coz we heard about them complaining how hard it is to make a living nowadays, but to me deceiving a buyer is plainly con & not about making a decent living. As much as many had claim they had learn a lot from the forum & are able to make better decision but sad to say there are many more been sucker by these unethical breeders & pet shops everyday. So the saying goes, a sucker born every minute had as much truth.
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