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Acaaaaakkkkk!!!!!
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Ini guna zooooom lens .... besok keluar muker depan majalah gossip!!!!
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wah!! I like.aku suka tgk kuicng mesra2 mcm ni tp bukan nak mengawan punya mesra 
Bro,ko tau tak,kucing jantan kat area kami ada 3 ekor ni yg msh blm dpt ditangkap.ada sekali tu aku tgk dia dok mengeong2 panggil si Bubbly kucing betina yg paling seksi & lawa kat area rmh kita. si Bubbly pelempang dia sekali.aku dok perati dari tgkt 3.ketawa berdekah2. |
Kalau manusia, pompuan tanggalkan kasut stiletto nya dan ketuk muker .... atau cabut slipper dan piiiiaiaaaaaaaappppppp !!!!! Adoooiiii ...... lariiiiieeeeee!!!!! 
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08-03-2009, 02:38 PM
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Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
hah!!! kena tangkap khalwat mcm Norman Hakim & Memey 
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08-03-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Kuntum, kalau betina tu dah spay dengan baik dia tak akan "go into heat" dan tidak akan mengeluarkan suatu bau (yg boleh di kesan oleh jantan yg belum kembiri dalam jarak beberapa km) yg buat jantan "go crazy" dan mesti mencari dia sampai jumpa. Kalau betina tidak dikembiri dengan sempurna (adakala vet yg kurang cekap tinggalkan bits of ovary yg masih dapat mengeluarkan hormone), dia masih boleh menunjukkan kesan mengawan, cuma tidak akan bunting.
Kucing yg telah dikembirikan (jantan atau betina) masih boleh menunjukkan kemesraan (affection) antara satu sama lain tetapi the feeling is not sexual sepertimana yg didemonstrasi oleh kucing-kucing saya dalam gambar-gambar di bawah. It is very nice to see it ... very, very warm and affectionate.
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That's what I thought...so kalau vet spay betol2, kucing jantan tak kan carik lah ye....? Hopefully, vet2 tu spay elok2 la...Kucing2 jantan mama saya, kadang2 heat la  ..siap tindih kucing lagi (tindih kucing betina dan kadang2 jantan pun dia belasah..) Adakah vet tu tak 'ambik' semua 'tuut' dia ah?
Furkids, tu semua kucing2 u ke? Sukaaaaaanyeeee!!! Bulat...& the best thing is, semua kucing kampung! Rasa nak gigit dan goreng je peha tuuuu!!!!
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08-03-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
Saya observed Furkid memang ada bakat tersembunyi 
Bakat yang menjadikan semua kucing di tangan nya cantik,gebu, comel,sexy dan rasa nak peluk.. 
Macam sentuhan ajaib lak
apa rahsia nya??
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08-03-2009, 07:52 PM
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A'ah la Furkids, share la ur secrets...bagi makan apa, suplements apa..mandi berapa kali? Bukan apa saya pun bela kucing kampung...nak gmokkan diorang ni....
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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That's what I thought...so kalau vet spay betol2, kucing jantan tak kan carik lah ye....? Hopefully, vet2 tu spay elok2 la...Kucing2 jantan mama saya, kadang2 heat la ..siap tindih kucing lagi (tindih kucing betina dan kadang2 jantan pun dia belasah..) Adakah vet tu tak 'ambik' semua 'tuut' dia ah?
Furkids, tu semua kucing2 u ke? Sukaaaaaanyeeee!!! Bulat...& the best thing is, semua kucing kampung! Rasa nak gigit dan goreng je peha tuuuu!!!!
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Tadi terbaca yang it is possible nak kembiri plus boarding sekali...means dia charge kiter kembiri plus boarding yang termasuk makan lah kan?..Kalau camtue senanglah.. cadang nak start buat cam kak June tapi sharing the house with family and my other half tak bagi kembiri..tapi difikirkan tengok anak2 kucing yang x terjaga bersepah kat kantin sekolah..asanya it's time I do someting about it..Kalau leh kembiri , tinggal kat vet sampai baik..oklah.. I have no idea pasal vet yang pandai kembiri sini..I plan to bawak g Peng Aun yang mana klinik dia sendiri dia rajin ambik kucing stray, ubatkan and bagi untuk adoption... Esok nak bawak si Bob check up and nak tanya sekali... and after that, one at a time lah kot... Kena buat M.O.U ngan pakcik kantin neh..
p/s I am scared the school will report the cats to SPCA...banyak kucing cantik... and last week I buat essay formal letter writing ..complaint letter regarding school canteen and it seems like the students started complaining about the adding up numbers of the strays... and teachers also dah bising pasal bulu atas kerusi bla bla bla... They are all beautiful strays..kebanyakkan ekor panjang cantik...macam Bengal pun ada 3 ekor...huhu
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08-03-2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Tadi terbaca yang it is possible nak kembiri plus boarding sekali...means dia charge kiter kembiri plus boarding yang termasuk makan lah kan?..Kalau camtue senanglah.. cadang nak start buat cam kak June tapi sharing the house with family and my other half tak bagi kembiri..tapi difikirkan tengok anak2 kucing yang x terjaga bersepah kat kantin sekolah..asanya it's time I do someting about it..Kalau leh kembiri , tinggal kat vet sampai baik..oklah.. I have no idea pasal vet yang pandai kembiri sini..I plan to bawak g Peng Aun yang mana klinik dia sendiri dia rajin ambik kucing stray, ubatkan and bagi untuk adoption... Esok nak bawak si Bob check up and nak tanya sekali... and after that, one at a time lah kot... Kena buat M.O.U ngan pakcik kantin neh..
p/s I am scared the school will report the cats to SPCA...banyak kucing cantik... and last week I buat essay formal letter writing ..complaint letter regarding school canteen and it seems like the students started complaining about the adding up numbers of the strays... and teachers also dah bising pasal bulu atas kerusi bla bla bla... They are all beautiful strays..kebanyakkan ekor panjang cantik...macam Bengal pun ada 3 ekor...huhu |
Serious banyak stray bersepah2 yang cantik2.. kat sini ada kitten kaler putih (x berapa putih sebab xterjaga) siap mata bitu..ekor melentik cantik..
rasanye kalo derang ni di shampoo, jaga bersih2, bawak masuk cat show surely menang
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Tadi terbaca yang it is possible nak kembiri plus boarding sekali...means dia charge kiter kembiri plus boarding yang termasuk makan lah kan?..Kalau camtue senanglah.. cadang nak start buat cam kak June tapi sharing the house with family and my other half tak bagi kembiri..tapi difikirkan tengok anak2 kucing yang x terjaga bersepah kat kantin sekolah..asanya it's time I do someting about it..Kalau leh kembiri , tinggal kat vet sampai baik..oklah.. I have no idea pasal vet yang pandai kembiri sini..I plan to bawak g Peng Aun yang mana klinik dia sendiri dia rajin ambik kucing stray, ubatkan and bagi untuk adoption... Esok nak bawak si Bob check up and nak tanya sekali... and after that, one at a time lah kot... Kena buat M.O.U ngan pakcik kantin neh..
p/s I am scared the school will report the cats to SPCA...banyak kucing cantik... and last week I buat essay formal letter writing ..complaint letter regarding school canteen and it seems like the students started complaining about the adding up numbers of the strays... and teachers also dah bising pasal bulu atas kerusi bla bla bla... They are all beautiful strays..kebanyakkan ekor panjang cantik...macam Bengal pun ada 3 ekor...huhu |
Serious? kucing cantik2? Kalau begitu I sokong u buat kembiri kucing2 tu...sama2 la kita ye...I pun nak buat peringkat demi peringkat...Insya-Allah, semoga kita berjaya! Heheh...buat la MOU dgn Pakcik kantin tu cepat2...
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Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
Kasih,sebenarnya klu neuter & boarding biasanya vet private.klu gomen atau klinik kembiri yg kat Setapak KL ni,kita kena bawa balik & jaga kucing2 tu sendiri. yg private clinic tu of course mahallah siap dgn boarding.yg akak buat ni lepas kembiri bawa balik rmh jaga sendiri.simpan dlm cage. tp tak tau kat Penang ada klinik kembiri mcm kat KL ke??
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Tadi terbaca yang it is possible nak kembiri plus boarding sekali...means dia charge kiter kembiri plus boarding yang termasuk makan lah kan?..Kalau camtue senanglah.. cadang nak start buat cam kak June tapi sharing the house with family and my other half tak bagi kembiri..tapi difikirkan tengok anak2 kucing yang x terjaga bersepah kat kantin sekolah..asanya it's time I do someting about it..Kalau leh kembiri , tinggal kat vet sampai baik..oklah.. I have no idea pasal vet yang pandai kembiri sini..I plan to bawak g Peng Aun yang mana klinik dia sendiri dia rajin ambik kucing stray, ubatkan and bagi untuk adoption... Esok nak bawak si Bob check up and nak tanya sekali... and after that, one at a time lah kot... Kena buat M.O.U ngan pakcik kantin neh..
p/s I am scared the school will report the cats to SPCA...banyak kucing cantik... and last week I buat essay formal letter writing ..complaint letter regarding school canteen and it seems like the students started complaining about the adding up numbers of the strays... and teachers also dah bising pasal bulu atas kerusi bla bla bla... They are all beautiful strays..kebanyakkan ekor panjang cantik...macam Bengal pun ada 3 ekor...huhu |
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Serious banyak stray bersepah2 yang cantik2.. kat sini ada kitten kaler putih (x berapa putih sebab xterjaga) siap mata bitu..ekor melentik cantik..
rasanye kalo derang ni di shampoo, jaga bersih2, bawak masuk cat show surely menang
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Sebenarnya sekarang ni kucing kampung kita dah banyak cross breed dah...mana tak nye owner2 kucing DLH ni, tak spay/neuter their cats...bila musim mengawan je, berkeliaran la kucing2 cantik ni nak menagawan...yang jadi mangsa kucing2 stray esp yang betina...sadly, lepas abis musim mengawan, stray nilah yang beranak pinak...owner2 kucing DLh pulak lepakkk...
Ini pengalaman I sendiri, sebab I tengok kucing2 DLH ni banyak berkeliaran di kawasan perumahan I ni bila time mengawan....I bagi kucing2 liar makan...tengok2 kucing2 yang bertuan ni pun tumpang sekaki...dan mengawan kucing2 stray betina...Owner macam ni lah juga contribute banyaknya strays..
So, to those yang ada kucing tak kira jenis apa, kalau nak lepas kat luar untuk diorang makan angin sekejap, please la, make sure, u neuter or spay ur cats.
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Kasih,sebenarnya klu neuter & boarding biasanya vet private.klu gomen atau klinik kembiri yg kat Setapak KL ni,kita kena bawa balik & jaga kucing2 tu sendiri. yg private clinic tu of course mahallah siap dgn boarding.yg akak buat ni lepas kembiri bawa balik rmh jaga sendiri.simpan dlm cage. tp tak tau kat Penang ada klinik kembiri mcm kat KL ke??
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Tuelah pasal kak June..memang kena tanya doc kat Peng Aun tueh dulu.. Saya pun tak pasti..
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08-04-2009, 11:28 AM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
hai...
lin baru pas kembirikan kucing lin
jantan n betina..2 ekor kat kembiri spca ..
register ngan en.krishnan.tue pon tau sbb kak june cakap ..
kat sana semeur bebaik..
sementara tunggu kucing settle..siap borak ngan en.krishnan n pak guard kat situ ..dah mati kutu tak tau nak wat per...dah g makan, g jenjalan patah balik pon tak settle lagie..sbb ramai..borak2 ngan cat lover yang antar kucing tuk sunat.....
kak june dah cakap datang awa...hhehheh
tapie lin datang kul 11.00 siap kul 5.00ptg..
so far..smuer berjalan lancar...
time dah siap ..kucing lin betina kencing...sian sangat ..
sbb ubat bius masih ada lagie..kencing tanpa sedar...
tapie yang paling lin sedey skalie..
time wat tue upernya dier prgnant...lin pnah rasa tetek dier..tapie tak rasa cam ader biji..lagipon lin tak nampak dier miang n nak mengawan..tapie biler sampai dan tengok report baru tau...tapie pergnant baru peringkat pertama..tapie dah tak bleh wat per...dah siap bedah pon..kejam sangat rasa mcam membunuh anak dia 
tapie semuernya dah terlewat..
kucing jantan lin kurung lam bilik...esok cukuplah 3 arie dah blh kuor bilik..
kucing betina lin kurung lam cage..2minggu baru leh kuor..
aper yang lin nampak..biler pas kembiri...
diorang main2 seperti biasa(main sendirielah) sbb diasingkan...macam sbelum sunat..makin nakal n manja
yang paling sonok..dioprang makan n makan...tanpa perlu ada rasa stress...
alhamdulillah..dua2 dah selamat kembiri...
insyaallah lagie 2 akan menyusul nantie...
nak kner check betul2 pastikan dier prengnant ker tak..
takut berulang kembali..tak sanggup dah ...
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08-04-2009, 11:32 AM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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p/s I am scared the school will report the cats to SPCA...banyak kucing cantik... and last week I buat essay formal letter writing ..complaint letter regarding school canteen and it seems like the students started complaining about the adding up numbers of the strays... and teachers also dah bising pasal bulu atas kerusi bla bla bla... They are all beautiful strays..kebanyakkan ekor panjang cantik...macam Bengal pun ada 3 ekor...huhu
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Nur, what you can do is to spearhead a TNR ("Trap-Neuter-Return/Release") program kat sekolah tu ie. work with SPCA to do a TNR program kat sekolah tersebut. If you have time, do a Google on TNR because it is the only proven solution to stray population management as implemented by many overseas SPCAs because these modern-minded and success-driven SPCAs overseas have discovered and come to a firm conclusion that the old traditional method of catch-and-kill (all, sick as well as good healthy animals) not only is a failure, it is indeed inhumane and cruel.
With the TNR method, they have been able to bring down the population of stray cats. They trap, neuter and then release back (after recuperation) the cats into the same area which they pick them up (cats are very territorial).
Cat lovers in the area then take it upon them to monitor and feed those cats at feeding stations set up discreetly and away from busy areas (in your school it can be around the gardeners' plant nursery (they will love to lepak around the numerous plants and hope you can find some cat loving gardeners who will enjoy having them around) away from the classrooms.
If you feed the cats well, they will loiter around less due to hunger because after a full stomach, they will all go find some quiet, shady place to sleep and only wander around at night since they are nocturnal creatures. In this way, most of the cats will not be visible and people will not go crying, "Ohhhhhhh!!!! Banyak nyer kucingggg ........."
However, most important for any TNR program to work, as strongly indicated by HK SPCA and others, the adult education program must be implemented to change the adult population's thinking and inculcate a tolerance towards animals living amidst us as God's creations.
Also, with a managed TNR colony of strays, the animals will be less likely to be unhealthy animals and have less diseases because the caregivers will be monitoring and take them for medical treatment.
Simply removing strays to dump somewhere else is just transfering the problem elsewhere and because nature abhores a vacuum, every removed stray will simply be replaced by another stray looking for a place to live and the problem is unending.
Alleycats.org is a good place of resource. I am glad I had stumbled upon that site and have learned so much and got many, many good ideas from there. Most importantly, I found that I was not alone.
Good luck!
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08-04-2009, 11:49 AM
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Saya observed Furkid memang ada bakat tersembunyi
Bakat yang menjadikan semua kucing di tangan nya cantik,gebu, comel,sexy dan rasa nak peluk..
Macam sentuhan ajaib lak
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Tak ader rahsia, Farahnm, saya kasi makan biasa mcm RC, dan daging ayam sekali-sekala, tak ada vitamin supplement langsung ... dan pastikan persekitaran rumah bersih dan selamat utk mereka. Tak payah mandi pun (aku malas!). Kalau kucing sihat, lawa lah mereka ... semua kucing gitu ... kasi ajer makanan premium ... yg tu aku tak kedekut sebab kesihatan mereka amat penting dan saya jimat belanja doktor.
Lihat penjelasan saya di mesej Post #30 kat http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?t=2684&page=2.
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Nur, what you can do is to spearhead a TNR ("Trap-Neuter-Return/Release") program kat sekolah tu ie. work with SPCA to do a TNR program kat sekolah tersebut. If you have time, do a Google on TNR because it is the only proven solution to stray population management as implemented by many overseas SPCAs because these modern-minded and success-driven SPCAs overseas have discovered and come to a firm conclusion that the old traditional method of catch-and-kill (all, sick as well as good healthy animals) not only is a failure, it is indeed inhumane and cruel.
With the TNR method, they have been able to bring down the population of stray cats. They trap, neuter and then release back (after recuperation) the cats into the same area which they pick them up (cats are very territorial).
Cat lovers in the area then take it upon them to monitor and feed those cats at feeding stations set up discreetly and away from busy areas (in your school it can be around the gardeners' plant nursery (they will love to lepak around the numerous plants and hope you can find some cat loving gardeners who will enjoy having them around) away from the classrooms.
If you feed the cats well, they will loiter around less due to hunger because after a full stomach, they will all go find some quiet, shady place to sleep and only wander around at night since they are nocturnal creatures. In this way, most of the cats will not be visible and people will not go crying, "Ohhhhhhh!!!! Banyak nyer kucingggg ........."
However, most important for any TNR program to work, as strongly indicated by HK SPCA and others, the adult education program must be implemented to change the adult population's thinking and inculcate a tolerance towards animals living amidst us as God's creations.
Also, with a managed TNR colony of strays, the animals will be less likely to be unhealthy animals and have less diseases because the caregivers will be monitoring and take them for medical treatment.
Simply removing strays to dump somewhere else is just transfering the problem elsewhere and because nature abhores a vacuum, every removed stray will simply be replaced by another stray looking for a place to live and the problem is unending.
Alleycats.org is a good place of resource. I am glad I had stumbled upon that site and have learned so much and got many, many good ideas from there. Most importantly, I found that I was not alone.
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Nanti i balik I google... Kena buat perancangan semua nieh..I sorang tak menang tangan nanti.... Pelan2 ya... THanks for the idea Furkids..
p.s tadi eyeing on one 2 months black kitty merayap kat canteen.. T balik t nak g catnap bawak balik... 
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Re: Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
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Nanti i balik I google... Kena buat perancangan semua nieh..I sorang tak menang tangan nanti.... Pelan2 ya... THanks for the idea Furkids..
p.s tadi eyeing on one 2 months black kitty merayap kat canteen.. T balik t nak g catnap bawak balik... |
Ya, projek mcm nie kena pandai-pandai enlist a few support members secara diam-diam ... one of them is definitely the school gardener sebab the plant nursery is very, very important as a hiding place ... also at least one cikgu influencial, dan kalau dapat of course the cikgu bosar ... hehehhehheeeeee!!! A reliable sekuriti guard also ... to feed and put in clean, fresh water especially on days when everyone is off.
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Neutering, What to expect, preparations??
jgn lupa cakap dgn cikgu besar,to instill semangat sayangkan binatang & love to nature dgn budak2 sekolah.biar tambah semangat.heheheheh!!
QUOTE=FurKids;56016]Ya, projek mcm nie kena pandai-pandai enlist a few support members secara diam-diam ... one of them is definitely the school gardener sebab the plant nursery is very, very important as a hiding place ... also at least one cikgu influencial, dan kalau dapat of course the cikgu bosar ... hehehhehheeeeee!!! A reliable sekuriti guard also ... to feed and put in clean, fresh water especially on days when everyone is off. [/QUOTE]
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