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Old 04-06-2009, 01:06 PM
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Kucing akak dari dulu suka minum dari baldi.klu bg dari bekas minum durang tak mau minum.durang suka pergi toilet dan minum dari baldi yg mmg selalu akak isi air utk cuci kaki ke,tangan ke dll.kdg2 durang suka dongak kat paip dan minum dari sana.hehehehe!! so akak ta perlu sediakan bekas air.akak standby baldi penuh2 dan durang tinggal minum.mmg cute tgk durang bertenggek kat tepi baldi teguk air.
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Fuhh..besaqnya botol......... komen sikit nihh.. kucing Lia posing maut nampak! .. Saya bagi 10 markah!
itu bukan posing maut tuh..
tuh aksi menempah maut..
kadang2 kalo euanna nak tau,
aksi dorang kadang2 lebih dahsyat dr aksi sekor monyet



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my juliet pon minum guna bottle..
masa mula2 mmg tak reti.
so saya amik botol tu then try letak kat mulut dia.
then dia jilat2 (rasa ader air kuar kot)
then saya trus letak kat cage.
mula2 dia tak reti.
then saya amik juliet, saya tolak2 manja kepala dia kat bottle tu.
then dia jilat.
sampai sekarang guna bottle jer.
so lagi bersih.
bulu tak basah kena air, n air minum pon lagi bersih
mmg lebih bersih...
xde basah & yg penting xde menambah keje nak mop2 lantai
@ tukar2 paper alas tray bawah cage dorang..

so kak zai,
bleh arr try cara2 di atas nih..
mane tau kot2 dengan "dorongan" dengan cara
menolak ala2 manja mulot dorang kat botol tuh,
baru dorang akan menyedari bahawa itulah botol sumber minuman
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Kucen aku plak pandai minum dalam bowl. Bersopan-santun lagik. Kabu klu makan @ minum, siap berteleku kat tepi bowl, bukan makan @ minum sambil berdiri. Air pun tak tumpah, mungkin sebab tak ramai kaum nak bergurau-senda kat umah ni kot.
Apa kaedah sekali pun, yg penting kucen kita mesti banyak minum air, especially kucen jantan. Aku takut kes aruah Kapas dulu berulang. Dpt kidney stone sbb makan friskies yg byk ajinomoto & kurang plak minum air. Maklum la masa tu mama dia tak reti lagi. Alhamdulillah sejak join PF ni banyak dapat ilmu. Kabu pun tak der masalah bab minum air. Sekali minum, 3 minit kot baru berhenti, pastu banyak kali ngulang
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ades!!! aku dah tergelak2 sorang baca si kabu siap berteleku kat tepi bowl minum air

tulah kak.nasiblah kucing2 aku ni jenis tak main air kat bowl.klu tak mmg ada yg kena jail dlm cage

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Kucen aku plak pandai minum dalam bowl. Bersopan-santun lagik. Kabu klu makan @ minum, siap berteleku kat tepi bowl, bukan makan @ minum sambil berdiri. Air pun tak tumpah, mungkin sebab tak ramai kaum nak bergurau-senda kat umah ni kot.
Apa kaedah sekali pun, yg penting kucen kita mesti banyak minum air, especially kucen jantan. Aku takut kes aruah Kapas dulu berulang. Dpt kidney stone sbb makan friskies yg byk ajinomoto & kurang plak minum air. Maklum la masa tu mama dia tak reti lagi. Alhamdulillah sejak join PF ni banyak dapat ilmu. Kabu pun tak der masalah bab minum air. Sekali minum, 3 minit kot baru berhenti, pastu banyak kali ngulang
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my juliet pon minum guna bottle..
masa mula2 mmg tak reti.
so saya amik botol tu then try letak kat mulut dia.
then dia jilat2 (rasa ader air kuar kot)
then saya trus letak kat cage.
mula2 dia tak reti.
then saya amik juliet, saya tolak2 manja kepala dia kat bottle tu.
then dia jilat.
sampai sekarang guna bottle jer.
so lagi bersih.
bulu tak basah kena air, n air minum pon lagi bersih
Hi Nazeri
Juliet yang color mcm adam kak zai tu ker ? (avatar pic)
comelnyer dia pandai pulak tu minum kat botol

dah cuba dah buat camtu tadi
tolak mulut durang ala2 manjer nak suoh minum dari botol
si yaya bila akak tolak molot dier, dier geget tgn akak
akak tolak lagi manjer, dia geget lagi manjer
si adam plak akak tolak molot dia terus lari nyuruks belakang sofa
tak mo kua sampai skrg
majuk ler tuh
anak manjer..tak pernah kene marah
tolak sikit terus nyuruks....*sighhh sighhhh*

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Kucing akak dari dulu suka minum dari baldi.klu bg dari bekas minum durang tak mau minum.durang suka pergi toilet dan minum dari baldi yg mmg selalu akak isi air utk cuci kaki ke,tangan ke dll.kdg2 durang suka dongak kat paip dan minum dari sana.hehehehe!! so akak ta perlu sediakan bekas air.akak standby baldi penuh2 dan durang tinggal minum.mmg cute tgk durang bertenggek kat tepi baldi teguk air.
June, bab dongak atas minum air dari paip ni aku pernah tengok sekor kucen minum camtu kat youtube. Pandai betul kucen ko. Mesti dia nak pastikan air tu berseh untuk diminum. Comel giler....

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Kucen aku plak pandai minum dalam bowl. Bersopan-santun lagik. Kabu klu makan @ minum, siap berteleku kat tepi bowl, bukan makan @ minum sambil berdiri. Air pun tak tumpah, mungkin sebab tak ramai kaum nak bergurau-senda kat umah ni kot.
Apa kaedah sekali pun, yg penting kucen kita mesti banyak minum air, especially kucen jantan. Aku takut kes aruah Kapas dulu berulang. Dpt kidney stone sbb makan friskies yg byk ajinomoto & kurang plak minum air. Maklum la masa tu mama dia tak reti lagi. Alhamdulillah sejak join PF ni banyak dapat ilmu. Kabu pun tak der masalah bab minum air. Sekali minum, 3 minit kot baru berhenti, pastu banyak kali ngulang
Nita, pandai ko bela kabu, jadi anak yang bersopan santun, duduk bersimpuh makan dan minumnyer. Sejuk perut aku dengor *mcm la aku yang ngandungkan kabu*
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:14 PM
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ntahlah zai.aku pun pelik gak.kenapa durang suka minum dongak dari paip.aku tak pernah ajar tu.durang sendiri dari kecik mcm tu. tu masa kak nita dtg rmh aku,mmg takde bekas air atas lantai dapur.durang tak minum gak klu aku letak.sudahnya baldi dan paip jd sasaran.heheheheeh!!

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June, bab dongak atas minum air dari paip ni aku pernah tengok sekor kucen minum camtu kat youtube. Pandai betul kucen ko. Mesti dia nak pastikan air tu berseh untuk diminum. Comel giler....



Nita, pandai ko bela kabu, jadi anak yang bersopan santun, duduk bersimpuh makan dan minumnyer. Sejuk perut aku dengor *mcm la aku yang ngandungkan kabu*
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
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uihhh..
rasanya nak bagi gak anak bulus kat umah mnum pakai botol..
kualiti air jamin terbersih..
kat umah ade bkas minum yg mcm kolam..isi air dlm botol then tonggengkan botol tu..air akan bertakung dlm bekas tu..
tapi masalahnye kadang2 kibles tercampak masuk skali dlm bekas tu..
lagi best time Acha muntahkan hairball dlm bekas minum tu...

nasihat saya bagi sesapa yg menggunakan botol air plastik..
cuba tonggengkan botol tu..then kita akan lambang segitiga kat montot botol tu..klu no dlm segitaga tu kurang dari 4 (1,2,3,4), maknanya botol tu x sesuai untuk digunakan berulang kali..ade side efek pada kandungan isi botol tu...uba cari botol yg angkanya 5 ke atas..

hal ini kita boleh praktikkan pada botol air seharian kita, tupperware, bekas eskrem dll...
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Alaaa..kesiannyer Acha...
mesti dia tak sengajer nak muntahkan hairball dalam tmpt minum tuh
mesti dia rasa haus, baru nak minum tetiba rasa nak muntah pulak

My adam pun skrg ni muntah bulu banyak
rasanya dah 4 kali dari minggu lepas
lepas muntah dia panggil kak zai.
berbunyi-bunyi...selagi tak dibersihkan muntah tu
dia kelam kabut sgt
entah hape lak perangai adam tu camtuh
kuat memerintah mama...

Thanks for good info Nik
mulai hari ini kita mesti berhati-hati dgn bekas plastik yg kita guna
ada yg mungkin membawa kemudaratan


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uihhh..
rasanya nak bagi gak anak bulus kat umah mnum pakai botol..
kualiti air jamin terbersih..
kat umah ade bkas minum yg mcm kolam..isi air dlm botol then tonggengkan botol tu..air akan bertakung dlm bekas tu..
tapi masalahnye kadang2 kibles tercampak masuk skali dlm bekas tu..
lagi best time Acha muntahkan hairball dlm bekas minum tu...

nasihat saya bagi sesapa yg menggunakan botol air plastik..
cuba tonggengkan botol tu..then kita akan lambang segitiga kat montot botol tu..klu no dlm segitaga tu kurang dari 4 (1,2,3,4), maknanya botol tu x sesuai untuk digunakan berulang kali..ade side efek pada kandungan isi botol tu...uba cari botol yg angkanya 5 ke atas..

hal ini kita boleh praktikkan pada botol air seharian kita, tupperware, bekas eskrem dll...
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Alaaa..kesiannyer Acha...
mesti dia tak sengajer nak muntahkan hairball dalam tmpt minum tuh
mesti dia rasa haus, baru nak minum tetiba rasa nak muntah pulak

My adam pun skrg ni muntah bulu banyak
rasanya dah 4 kali dari minggu lepas
lepas muntah dia panggil kak zai.
berbunyi-bunyi...selagi tak dibersihkan muntah tu
dia kelam kabut sgt
entah hape lak perangai adam tu camtuh
kuat memerintah mama...

Thanks for good info Nik
mulai hari ini kita mesti berhati-hati dgn bekas plastik yg kita guna
ada yg mungkin membawa kemudaratan
hehehe..
juz kongsi info jer kak zai..
pasal acha, mmg feveret dier wat camtu...
klu kurung dlm cage, msti kuar hairball..
banyak plak tu...
tu yg saya pun tetiba berminat nak bagi dier mnum gne btol...
nampak ckit mcm hamster..wakakakkaaa...
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Hi Nazeri
Juliet yang color mcm adam kak zai tu ker ? (avatar pic)
comelnyer dia pandai pulak tu minum kat botol

dah cuba dah buat camtu tadi
tolak mulut durang ala2 manjer nak suoh minum dari botol
si yaya bila akak tolak molot dier, dier geget tgn akak
akak tolak lagi manjer, dia geget lagi manjer
si adam plak akak tolak molot dia terus lari nyuruks belakang sofa
tak mo kua sampai skrg
majuk ler tuh
anak manjer..tak pernah kene marah
tolak sikit terus nyuruks....*sighhh sighhhh*

ha ah..juliet kaler pon lebih kurang adam kak zai la..
actually masa ajar juliet umur dia 2 bulan lebih kot..
tp masa tu ajar dia 3 4 kali jer.then dia pandai sendiri.
tgh fresh kot masa tu
sbb kucing kemek ni kalo minum guna mangkuk tu, ades....
mmg sakit jiwa tgk....abis basah2 n comot..
lagi2 baru lepas mandi, dah keringkan elok2 then dia minum guna mangkuk.
abis bulu dia basah2..pastu nanti bulu kuning2..adus..
so better guna bottle tu
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Sha...theres always a first time for everything
kalau hamster mmg terrer minum camnih ....tak payah ajar pun
suggies minum mcm maner sha ? kak zai tak pernah tengok

samer jek cam hamster... kt ujung straw besi tu ada bebola sebijik.. bila dorg lick, benda tu kdlm... kuaq la air.... mcm tu jgk.. tp botol dorg kecik ajek..
Cma sha xpnh nengok kucin yg guna...
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pelbagai saiz water bottle / feeder


pandainyer....


anak sapaaa la ni...


so....kalau ada kawan2 yang telah berjaya mengajar anak2 bulus mereka minum dari botol/feeder mcm ni, boleh share kat sini.

what is your secret ?
Zai, jelesnyaaaaaaa tgk kucen tu pandai minum mcm tu.. Gee dah lama terfikir nak buat mcm ni.. ehmmm tapi teringat pulak dengan hamsters yg dekat 50 ekor kat rumah mak tu.. hehe.. terdongak2..

I dont think i can do this with my 13 cats. Boleh imagine panjang queue bila time nak minum kalau letak 2 bijik. I am already satisfied with this drinking fountain water feeder. Mmg harga agak mahal, more than rm100 tp puas hati bila ada ramai kucing mcm gee ni..




Gee beli sebijik je.. boleh la 4 ekor sekali minum keliling dan sekor lagi drink from the reservoir tepi tu. For 13 cats, gee kena tambah lagi 2 bijik bottle bowl feeder. Setiap hari kena ganti fresh water dlm bottle, depa kuat minum hehe Even guna fountain water feeder tu pun gee replace water every night sebelum tido & every morning sebelum pi kerja. Otherwise it'll be noisy sbb tak de air running.
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Zai, jelesnyaaaaaaa tgk kucen tu pandai minum mcm tu.. Gee dah lama terfikir nak buat mcm ni.. ehmmm tapi teringat pulak dengan hamsters yg dekat 50 ekor kat rumah mak tu.. hehe.. terdongak2..

I dont think i can do this with my 13 cats. Boleh imagine panjang queue bila time nak minum kalau letak 2 bijik. I am already satisfied with this drinking fountain water feeder. Mmg harga agak mahal, more than rm100 tp puas hati bila ada ramai kucing mcm gee ni..




Gee beli sebijik je.. boleh la 4 ekor sekali minum keliling dan sekor lagi drink from the reservoir tepi tu. For 13 cats, gee kena tambah lagi 2 bijik bottle bowl feeder. Setiap hari kena ganti fresh water dlm bottle, depa kuat minum hehe Even guna fountain water feeder tu pun gee replace water every night sebelum tido & every morning sebelum pi kerja. Otherwise it'll be noisy sbb tak de air running.
mende nie guna bateri ke letrik kak gee?
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Zai, jelesnyaaaaaaa tgk kucen tu pandai minum mcm tu.. Gee dah lama terfikir nak buat mcm ni.. ehmmm tapi teringat pulak dengan hamsters yg dekat 50 ekor kat rumah mak tu.. hehe.. terdongak2..

I dont think i can do this with my 13 cats. Boleh imagine panjang queue bila time nak minum kalau letak 2 bijik. I am already satisfied with this drinking fountain water feeder. Mmg harga agak mahal, more than rm100 tp puas hati bila ada ramai kucing mcm gee ni..




Gee beli sebijik je.. boleh la 4 ekor sekali minum keliling dan sekor lagi drink from the reservoir tepi tu. For 13 cats, gee kena tambah lagi 2 bijik bottle bowl feeder. Setiap hari kena ganti fresh water dlm bottle, depa kuat minum hehe Even guna fountain water feeder tu pun gee replace water every night sebelum tido & every morning sebelum pi kerja. Otherwise it'll be noisy sbb tak de air running.
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mende nie guna bateri ke letrik kak gee?
Nik..fountain ni guna letrik... best gak guna ni sbnrnya.. kucing nana lbh byk minum banding bl guna bowl dulu...

Nana nak try bottle ni, nak encourage dia minum lbh lagi... lg pun bl guna fountain ni, ada ms2 tu, rs2 half dia minum, half tumpah/ diserap mainan yg dimasukkan dlm tu...

bnde ni ada filter...so bl ada bnde, kertas kck2, litter material masuk dia xrun blk ke dlm pump air, tp still sb bulu kucing byk (+ lg bl dia main celup2 tgn kaki dlm tu) filter tu kene bersihkn sll la...

tumpah tu sb fountain tu bl t'kena dgn bnde lain, dia akan flow keluar...mcm Bulan, dia suka tahan air tu dgn tgn, konon2 nak stop air tu drp mengalir, jd nye air tu drip ke tepi2 tgn dia and menitik2 la atas lantai..lps tu tgn yg basah tu dia shake percik la ke segala2 yg ada kt tepi2 tu..

skg Nana nak try bg drg pki bottle ni jgk la...sb ada la ms2nya, dia amik brg2 mainan yg colornya luntur celup dlm tu . xke tekejut, bl tgk air yg jernih tu jd merah, hijau segala macam . Pastu tentulah dia dah xnak minum air tu, demand pulak!
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Kalau Gee jelesssss tengok kucen ni minum camtu, zai lagi la jeles. I m 'green with envy'. Kalau adam pandai minum camtu zai lah org paling bahagia dekat forum nih

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Zai, jelesnyaaaaaaa tgk kucen tu pandai minum mcm tu.. Gee dah lama terfikir nak buat mcm ni.. ehmmm tapi teringat pulak dengan hamsters yg dekat 50 ekor kat rumah mak tu.. hehe.. terdongak2..



zai pun pernah rasa mcm nak beli water fountain mcm Gee ni, tapi tak jadi sebab fikirkan adam punya bulu semakin panjang, dia mesti basah punyer lepas minum kat situ.

Gee, zai syorkan Gee cuba jugak bottle feeder ni satu dulu. So, kalau Gee sibuk, lambat balik rumah, pergi zalan-zalan cari makan ngan family, tak payah la nak risaukan makan minum anakbulus yang 13 ekor tu. At least you know minuman durang ada dan masih bersih dalam feeder tu. Mungkin dari 13 ekor tu, bukan semua yang akan guna feeder. At least Gee kasi durang varieties of choice
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mende nie guna bateri ke letrik kak gee?
Nik, yup. So air sentiasa mengalir dekat kubah tu. Akak biarkan 24hours. Seminggu sekali cuci filter dia. TErgelak baca nana punya mesej - kucing yg pandai betol2 kreatip bermain dgn air hehe.. So far akak tak de kucing yg mcm tu. Kalau ada pun sekor nama Betty, dia suka minum dgn celop tangan dan jilat. Ada masa dia lick from kubah tu.

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zai pun pernah rasa mcm nak beli water fountain mcm Gee ni, tapi tak jadi sebab fikirkan adam punya bulu semakin panjang, dia mesti basah punyer lepas minum kat situ.

Gee, zai syorkan Gee cuba jugak bottle feeder ni satu dulu. So, kalau Gee sibuk, lambat balik rumah, pergi zalan-zalan cari makan ngan family, tak payah la nak risaukan makan minum anakbulus yang 13 ekor tu. At least you know minuman durang ada dan masih bersih dalam feeder tu. Mungkin dari 13 ekor tu, bukan semua yang akan guna feeder. At least Gee kasi durang varieties of choice
Kalau mama Zai nak tau, si Daisy masih tak tau lagi minum dr kubah, dia cuba minum dari reservoir kat sebelah kubah tu.. abisssssssssss basah dagu dan leher dia! Memanjang nak kena lap. Rupanya dia ni suka minum from the bowl.

Orait Zai! Gee akan cuba sebijik hehehe.. nak tengok kucing mana satu yg suka minum from bottle feeder tu..
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Nita, pandai ko bela kabu, jadi anak yang bersopan santun, duduk bersimpuh makan dan minumnyer. Sejuk perut aku dengor *mcm la aku yang ngandungkan kabu*
Hahaha...tang sopan-santun tu, bukan aku yg ngajor....semulajadi sejak dari azali lagi


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nasihat saya bagi sesapa yg menggunakan botol air plastik..
cuba tonggengkan botol tu..then kita akan lambang segitiga kat montot botol tu..klu no dlm segitaga tu kurang dari 4 (1,2,3,4), maknanya botol tu x sesuai untuk digunakan berulang kali..ade side efek pada kandungan isi botol tu...uba cari botol yg angkanya 5 ke atas..

hal ini kita boleh praktikkan pada botol air seharian kita, tupperware, bekas eskrem dll...
Betul Nik.....especially kalau kita beli mineral water & bila minum, air tu rasa mcm plastik, maknanya chemical yg digunakan dalam pembuatan botol tu, kandungannya tinggi. Bebaru ni aku dgr kononnya plastik bole menyebabkan kegemukan ? Tapi aku tak baca mendalam lagi pasal isu ni.

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My adam pun skrg ni muntah bulu banyak
rasanya dah 4 kali dari minggu lepas
lepas muntah dia panggil kak zai.
berbunyi-bunyi...selagi tak dibersihkan muntah tu
dia kelam kabut sgt
entah hape lak perangai adam tu camtuh
kuat memerintah mama...
Kabu aku plak....tak pernah sekali pun aku tgk dia muntah hairball. Klu muntah rumput tu ada la. Normal ker ?
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Betul Nik.....especially kalau kita beli mineral water & bila minum, air tu rasa mcm plastik, maknanya chemical yg digunakan dalam pembuatan botol tu, kandungannya tinggi. Bebaru ni aku dgr kononnya plastik bole menyebabkan kegemukan ? Tapi aku tak baca mendalam lagi pasal isu ni.
tau xpe kak nita..
kadang2 air mineral yg dieorang jual da x brape elok walaupun blom xpired..
contohnyer, air dlm botol tu ade buih2 melekat kat sekeliling botol tu..

psl gemuk tu saya xtau plak..
sbb saya x minum air mineral (mnum air masak je kat umah) tapi still gemuk..hehehehe
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Pernah tak tengok simbol-simbol nih kat bawah botol plastik? Simbol nih menandakan jenis plastik yg diguna untuk buat botol tu. Plastik-plastik ni pulak bertindak berlainan terhadap suhu. Ada yang jadi toksik bila kena panas dan ada pulak yang jadi toksik dalam keadaan sejuk. Tapi takda lak mention plastik yang leh menyebabkan gemuk

Untuk lebih lanjut tengok sini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_bottles
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