Innova Evo Cat Food..Pandangan you all..

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by FurKids

Kawan, where did you derive this piece of maklumat or idea mengenai effect of high protein on the cat? Sebab the cat is not like the dog whose body system can tolerate some plant products. The cat, like the lion is an ULTIMATE carnivore. I give my cats ayam kukus (especially when they are not well) and this is 100% protein.

As we all now know (from all the research done on cats in the last 10 years), the cat's body cannot process carbohydrates and plant products well (not like dogs), it causes them much problems. That is the reason why grains-free cat food in the premium range were introduced (after studying the cat's natural diet in its natural environment, not as a pet living in a cage) and costs a lot more. But grains (carbohydrates and fibre) are used as fillers in cat food to lower the production cost (and hence cost price) and to give bulk (nampak banyak).

I think I make it well said... Not all cats can tolerate high protein..Yes, there are carnivorous but then they are also SOME who cannot tolerate.. Based on my own experience on my cats and also some of the forumers... Thank you for your kind attention and advise...

[FurKids]

Originally Posted by monyok

mana tak lembut poket, isi dah kurang . tp sbb kak pen ada liver problem (fatty liver), pejamkan mata jer la bayar. saya buat mcm kawan2 ajar bila nk introduce makanan baru kat diorang. baru bg dlm nisbah 2:1, si bulat dah cirit. kak pen jgn cerita la sbb dia mmg ada problem. habis 1 rumah sememeh . mau tak mau, turun naik kedai cari juga sampai dpt. salmon blue tu bg kat kucing adik. happy jer dia mkn takder problem.

Makanan kering kalau nak tukar utk kucing kena buat secara perlahan dan beransuran (tidak sekali gus) bagi mengelakkan cirit birit.

Ini adalah kerana bahan additives yg diletak ke dalam makanan kering bagi membentukkan poo yg correct consistency dari segi firmness adalah berlainan antara pembekal. Lain jenama guna lain jenis.

Jadi kalau kita ingin tukar makanan kering kucing, dan mengelakkan digestive system kucing jadi kelam kabut (cirit-birit) kita mesti ikut cara yg disyorkan iaitu kalau tak silap adalah dengan memberi makanan baru dan makanan lama dalam nisbah 1:3 untuk minggu pertama, ikuti oleh nisbah 1:1 untuk minggu ke-2, dikuti oleh nisbah 3:1 dalam minggu ke-3 dan makanan baru sepenuhnya selepas itu.

Makanan basah biasanya no hal punyer ... yg buat hal adalah makanan kering tu kerana bahan campuran berlainan yg digunakan bagi mencapai effect kat intestine kucing masa digestion, jadi makanan kering kena perlahan dan beransuran.

[habidaiya]

sory out of tpopic jap,

nk tnyer science plan ok x?

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by FurKids

Makanan kering kalau nak tukar utk kucing kena buat secara perlahan dan beransuran (tidak sekali gus) bagi mengelakkan cirit birit.

Ini adalah kerana bahan additives yg diletak ke dalam makanan kering bagi membentukkan poo yg correct consistency dari segi firmness adalah berlainan antara pembekal. Lain jenama guna lain jenis.

Jadi kalau kita ingin tukar makanan kering kucing, dan mengelakkan digestive system kucing jadi kelam kabut (cirit-birit) kita mesti ikut cara yg disyorkan iaitu kalau tak silap adalah dengan memberi makanan baru dan makanan lama dalam nisbah 1:3 untuk minggu pertama, ikuti oleh nisbah 1:1 untuk minggu ke-2, dikuti oleh nisbah 3:1 dalam minggu ke-3 dan makanan baru sepenuhnya selepas itu.

Wokeh taiko of all cats..

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by habidaiya

sory out of tpopic jap,

nk tnyer science plan ok x?

So far oklah... I tak berapa suka bagi makan science plan tapi dah itu je yang dia nak...bagi jerlah.. mungkin bila dia dah stable nanti... and dah okie... i tukarlah..

[FurKids]

Originally Posted by nurkasih

I think I make it well said... Not all cats can tolerate high protein..Yes, there are carnivorous but then they are also SOME who cannot tolerate.. Based on my own experience on my cats and also some of the forumers... Thank you for your kind attention and advise...

Wah, marah ke? don't have to shout (large font and red is shouting in cyber ettiquete) ... peace! this is an open discussion,

Speaking of protein, there are different qualities of protein (that is why the finer print on the pack always need to be scruitnised). And there are also research that cats tolerate fat and protein well, the problem is the quality of it given, so I am still positive on this bearing in mind the cat's natural diet in its natural habitat, even old and sickly ones because there are a LOT of marketing hypes out there, memang buat keliru betul kadang-kadang.

[FurKids]

Originally Posted by habidaiya

sory out of tpopic jap,

nk tnyer science plan ok x?

Saya suggest you dapatkan sample atau beli pek kecik and try it out on your cats sebab lain kucing lain ... ok for some cats tapi some cat owners report that walaupun kucing mereka makan no problem, tapi poo yg dikeluarkan terlalu keras dan poo terlalu keras boleh menimbulkan masalah bontot berdarah mcm piles lama-kelamaan. So, I suggest that you try dulu and see what happens. Worth trying sebab SP is cheaper than RC but generally, RC gives quite ok punyer poo quality.

IAMS pula ramai orang report kucing mereka gugur bulu berlebihan tapi ada setengah kucing ok pulak ... so to some extent, it depends on your cat too. Maybe ok for others but not for yours, kay?

[monyok]

Originally Posted by FurKids

Makanan kering kalau nak tukar utk kucing kena buat secara perlahan dan beransuran (tidak sekali gus) bagi mengelakkan cirit birit.

Ini adalah kerana bahan additives yg diletak ke dalam makanan kering bagi membentukkan poo yg correct consistency dari segi firmness adalah berlainan antara pembekal. Lain jenama guna lain jenis.

Jadi kalau kita ingin tukar makanan kering kucing, dan mengelakkan digestive system kucing jadi kelam kabut (cirit-birit) kita mesti ikut cara yg disyorkan iaitu kalau tak silap adalah dengan memberi makanan baru dan makanan lama dalam nisbah 1:3 untuk minggu pertama, ikuti oleh nisbah 1:1 untuk minggu ke-2, dikuti oleh nisbah 3:1 dalam minggu ke-3 dan makanan baru sepenuhnya selepas itu.

Makanan basah biasanya no hal punyer ... yg buat hal adalah makanan kering tu kerana bahan campuran berlainan yg digunakan bagi mencapai effect kat intestine kucing masa digestion, jadi makanan kering kena perlahan dan beransuran.

patut la anak bulu ku cirit2. salah ratio la pulak. adess . Kene igt ni. 1:3 bukan 1:2. Thanks Furkids . Just to share with you all: Vet sy ada bagitau, makanan basah tak elok sgt bg ke kucen sbb byk preservatives. dia lg suka kalau kita dpt bg diorang ayam rebus/ ikan rebus.

[FurKids]

Originally Posted by monyok

patut la anak bulu ku cirit2. salah ratio la pulak. adess . Kene igt ni. 1:3 bukan 1:2. Thanks Furkids . Just to share with you all: Vet sy ada bagitau, makanan basah tak elok sgt bg ke kucen sbb byk preservatives. dia lg suka kalau kita dpt bg diorang ayam rebus/ ikan rebus.

Bukan sahaja banyak bahan pengawit (yg boleh buat kucing lagi cirit-birit), banyak sodium, bahkan banyak kandungan jelly dan air dan kurang sangat daging (tak sampai secubit bawang pun) walaupun harganya mahal ... lebih baik aku pergi kedai nasik ayam belikan ayam kukus (warna putih) untuk dia - harga RM6-7 bagi stengah bahagian satu dada ayam, dagingnya cukup utk lebih daripada 25 tin wet food kalau kita dok banding betul-betul ....

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by FurKids

Wah, marah ke? don't have to shout (large font and red is shouting in cyber ettiquete) ... peace! this is an open discussion,

Speaking of protein, there are different qualities of protein (that is why the finer print on the pack always need to be scruitnised). And there are also research that cats tolerate fat and protein well, the problem is the quality of it given, so I am still positive on this bearing in mind the cat's natural diet in its natural habitat, even old and sickly ones because there are a LOT of marketing hypes out there, memang buat keliru betul kadang-kadang.

I use red highlight because i think from the beginning i kept on saying the same thing....nevermind tho..cyber etiquette... Yeah, just look at who's talking..

Nway, yerlah taiko.. nway, i got no problem till now anymore..happy with the way my babies are.

And yeap, protein..talking about protein.. If you want to have a beautiful curving body, do a protein diet tho..

Entahlah..akuh pun tak tahu apa aku cakap..

p/s out of topic sket..can anyone tell me what is Rep Power is? I saw June with thousand of post ada 5 Rep power... Me..dalam 302 post adalah dalam 1 rep power.. tapi si taiko atas nieh riban post pun 0 jerk... naper ekk.. Diorang bagi rep power tue atas dasar aper ekk? Anyone?

Open discussion ait..

[FurKids]

Oh itu reputation points in a forum ... very sonang wan ... you can do a google on it ... and in a well run forum with a good moderator where things are run well and fair, it is a good reflection of things otherwise, it doesn't mean anything.

FYI in this forum, saya buat komen tak setuju dengan forumers making unsubstantiated allegations against others secara melulu, saya tanya kenapa SPCA tak buat TNR mcm SPCA overseas supaya dapat mengurangkan the kill-rate at the shelters, dan sebagainya, jadi orang yg sakit hati (setengah orang tak leh terima orang lain kata dia buat tak betul atau tak setuju dengan dia) ramai-ramai tenyeh my posts and downgrade my rep power lah ... konon aku buat very bad postings la ..... hehehhehehheheeee!!!!

June, walaupun dia sokong saya, mereka tak brani tenyeh dia, nanti satu kampung tutup! June nie orang kuat .... hehehhehehheeeee!!!

Nurkasih, nanti kitorang tolong upkan your rep power sikit, yer?

[June]

eh,eh.memandai je si FK ni kata aku org kuat kampung.tp klu ko kata samseng kampung ni aku percayalah.wakakakakak!!!

alah, Nur,toksah ko kisahkan sgt rep power ni.kdg2 org tak suka kita walaupun kita cakap betul durang downgraded.tu je.pahit nak telan kenyataan jd bunuhlah career orang tu.heheheh!! mcm kes org yg kena buang dari tgkt14 tu ler.

Originally Posted by FurKids

Oh itu reputation points in a forum ... very sonang wan ... you can do a google on it ... and in a well run forum with a good moderator where things are run well and fair, it is a good reflection of things otherwise, it doesn't mean anything.

FYI in this forum, saya buat komen tak setuju dengan forumers making unsubstantiated allegations against others secara melulu, saya tanya kenapa SPCA tak buat TNR mcm SPCA overseas supaya dapat mengurangkan the kill-rate at the shelters, dan sebagainya, jadi orang yg sakit hati (setengah orang tak leh terima orang lain kata dia buat tak betul atau tak setuju dengan dia) ramai-ramai tenyeh my posts and downgrade my rep power lah ... konon aku buat very bad postings la ..... hehehhehehheheeee!!!!

June, walaupun dia sokong saya, mereka tak brani tenyeh dia, nanti satu kampung tutup! June nie orang kuat .... hehehhehehheeeee!!!

Nurkasih, nanti kitorang tolong upkan your rep power sikit, yer?

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by June

eh,eh.memandai je si FK ni kata aku org kuat kampung.tp klu ko kata samseng kampung ni aku percayalah.wakakakakak!!!

alah, Nur,toksah ko kisahkan sgt rep power ni.kdg2 org tak suka kita walaupun kita cakap betul durang downgraded.tu je.pahit nak telan kenyataan jd bunuhlah career orang tu.heheheh!! mcm kes org yg kena buang dari tgkt14 tu ler.

Sajalah tanya sbb mula2 ingatkan cam..ikut posting... so I tak kisah sangat..pastue terjumpa mamat tueh..dia takder rep power..tue yang pelik tueh... Kalau gitu kisahnya...takperlah..just a mere question..no harm tho..

Nak naikkan boleh...kalau satu rep equals to RM100 ker..boleh gak..kalau mcam dalam nieh jer...tak payah kot..hambo pun bukan 24 jam belek petfinder... Rasa nak buka..buka..kalau tak... internet pun tak log in.. G pun i kerja tak pakai tenet 24 jam..hehehehe

[honeybun]

Interesting cat food. Nak try for my cats tapi my regular pet shop kat subang tak de brand ni. Kat kedai mana yg ada ek, area subang/shah alam?

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by honeybun

Interesting cat food. Nak try for my cats tapi my regular pet shop kat subang tak de brand ni. Kat kedai mana yg ada ek, area subang/shah alam?

Innova is available here ..call first before you go..

Amazing Pets
Lot 51, Survey Lot 1442
Block 11, Tabuan Heights
PH 7, Commercial Centre, Kuching, Sarawak 93350
016-8881313

Animed Veterinary Clinic
9G,Jalan Kasturi 1
Kasturi Business Plaza
Off Jalan Balakong Batu 11
Selangor, 43200
03-90190100

Baby Pet Surgery and Veterinary
7, Jalan 9D
Taman Equine Park
Bandar Baru Putra Permai, Seri Kembangan Selangor 43300
03-89480040

Big Bone Pet Center
23,Jalan 21/12
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 46300
03-78745453

Century Animal Medical Supplies Sdn. Bhd.
Ground Floor,Lot 25
Block C,Plaza Utama
Kota Kinabalu
Sabah, 88200
012-2181032

City Home Pets Centre Sdn. Bhd.
47,Jalan Genuang
Johor, 85000
012-7890019

Cutiz Pets Enterprise
210, Jalan Bunga Pekan
Kawasan 6, Banting Selangor 42700
012-2327890

Grooming Dales Pets Saloon
30, Jalan 3/109C
Taman Abadi Indah 4th Mile
Jalan Kelang Lama, Kuala Lumpur 58100
03-79810158

Haiwanku
4,Jalan Tengku Ampuan Zabedah
9/A Section 9
Shah Alam
Selangor, 40000
012-2327890

Happie N Jovie
Lot G22,Ground Floor
Centrepoint,Bandar Utama
3,Lebuh Bandar Utama
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47800
016-2404001

Happy Pet House
536,Jalan Riang 11
Happy Garden
Kuala Lumpur, 58200
03-79806770

Home Pet Food & Care
41, Jalan 1/149J
Bandar Baru Seri Petaling, Kuala Lumpur 57000
03-90593191

I Pets Salon
C-G-3,Jalan PJU 1/45
Aman Suria Damansara
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47301
03-78806119

K9 Sanctuary Pet Centre
63,Jalan SS22/23
Damansara Jaya
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47400
03-77278895

Klinik Haiwan Lee
32A-a, Jalan PJU 1/3A
Sunway Mas Commercial Centre, Petaling Jaya Selangor 47301
03-78031966

Klinik Haiwan Sim
31, Leboh Lang
Taman Berkeley, Klang Selangor 41150
03-33419140

Kooi Lim Pet Kingdom
288,Jalan Tun Sambathan
Brickfields
Kuala Lumpur, 50470
03-22723933

Kuan Pet Salon
42A,Jalan Kuchai Maju 6
Kuchai Lama
Kuala Lumpur, 58200
03-79811226

Lee Pet Supply
2, Lorong Yap Hin
Pudu
Kuala Lumpur, Selangor 55100
03-21411007

Lian Animal Clinic
255G, Jalan Sentosa 41
Taman Bunga Melor
Jalan Meru, Klang Selangor 41050
03-33451828

Mutiara Animal Clinic
10, Jalan Mutiari Raya
Taman Mutiara Cheras, Kuala Lumpur 56000
03-91317418

OhYong Enterprise
15 Taman Lee Man
Paragon Genesis Sdn. Bhd.
Lot 7 Shop No 1 Ground Floor
Lorong Luyang PH 8
Jalan Kolam, Kota Kinaabalu Sabah 88300
088-211189

Pedigree Pets N Care Sdn. Bhd.
12, Jalan Anggerik 2/4
Taman Anggerik, Johor Bahru 81200
07-5586239

Perniagaan Lin Fong Sdn. Bhd.
53, Lorong Bangau Satu (78)
Kepong Baru, Kuala Lumpur 52100
03-62748409

Pet Hub Grooming & Accessories
128, Jalan Serampang
Taman Pelangi, Johor Bahru 80400
07-3357995

Pet Master
No:36 & 38,Jalan Kebudayaan 18
Taman Universiti
Johor Bahru, 81300
07-5206008

Pet Shack
102, Block A, Mentari Business Park
Jalan PJS 8/2
Bandar Sunway, Petaling Jaya Selangor 46150
03-56374536

Pet Story
9, Jalan Dedap 6
Taman Johor Jaya, Johor Bahru 81100
07-3311677

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Carrefour Branch)
12, Lever2, Carrefour Shopping Centre
Kepong, Kuala Lumpur 52100
03-62595449

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Desa Parkcity Branch)
GF29,Waterfront@Parkcity
5 Persiaran Residen
Desa Parkcity Kepong
Kuala Lumpur, 52200
03-62808449

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (HQ)
10, Jalan Sultan
Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Kota Damansara Branch)
Lot G39,G53 & G54,Giant HyperMarkets
16,Jalan PJU5/1
Kota Damansara PJU 5
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47810
03-61423382

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Metro Perdana Branch)
85, Jalan Metro PerdanaBarat 1
Taman Usahawan, Kepong, Kuala Lumpur 52100
03-62576449

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (One Utama Branch)
Lot 310A,Lower Ground Floor
One Utama Shopping Centre
Bandar Utama
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47800
03-77276449

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (OUG Branch)
114GF, Jalan Mega Mendung
Off Jalan Klang Lama, Kuala Lumpur 58200
03-79804780

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Queen's Park Branch)
QP17, Block A, Queen's Park
Retail Centre
Jalan Shelley, Kuala Lumpur 55100
03-92056449

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Subang Branch)
A11, Jalan SS15/4D
Subang Jaya, Selangor 47500
03-56376815

Pets More Shop Sdn. Bhd. (Taman Connaught Branch)
126 Cerdas
Taman Connaught
Kuala Lumpur, 56100
03-91019001

Pets People Sdn. Bhd.
60,Jalan Sri Hartamas 1
Lot P-1-5,Plaza Hartamas
Sri Hartamas
Kuala Lumpur, 50480
03-62011708

Pets Trails
18,Lorong Batu Nilam 21A
Bandar Bukit Tinggi
Klang
Selangor, 41200
03-33240500

PetWeL Veterinary Clinic
153, Jalan Lanchang
Taman Sri Bahtera Cheras, Kuala Lumpur 56100
03-91303435

Philos Veterinary Clinic
925, Jalan 17/38
Happy Garden, Petaling Jaya Selangor 46400
03-79541997

PLC Pet Safari Sdn. Bhd. (Kuala Lumpur)
S1 IKANO Power Centre Level 2
Mutiara Damansara
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47800
03-77267578

PLC Pet Safari Sdn. Bhd. (Sunway Pyramid Branch)
LG2.26 & 2.27,Sunway Pyramid
No:3,Jalan PJS 11/15
Bandar Sunway
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 46150
03-74920588

Pretty Pets
63, Lorong Taman Ipoh 1
Taman Ipoh Selatan, Ipoh Perak 31400
05-5470989

Pusat Perubatan Veterinar Small Animal
12, Persiaran Puteri 1
Bandar Puteri, Puchong Selangor 47100
03-80619397

Rott Mastiff Pet Accessories
100, Jalan Permas 10
Bandar Baru Permas Jaya, Masai Johor Bahru 81750
07-3863445

Sea Park Pet Supplies Sdn. Bhd. (Branch)
22A, Jalan PJU5/15
Dataran Sunway
Sunway Damansara, Petaling Jaya Selangor 47810
03-61571257

Sea Park Pet Supplies Sdn. Bhd. (HQ)
35, Jalan SS2/55
SP Smarts Pet Centre (HQ)
43 & 43A,Lorong 13
Taman Petani Jaya, Sungai Pentani Kedah 08000
012-4302356

SP Smarts Pet Centre (Lagenda Branch)
88, Jalan Legenda 1
Legenda Heights, Sungai Pentani Kedah 08000
019-4468131
Subang Pet Products Centre
55, Jalan SS18/6
Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya Selangor 47500
03-56364319

Tails Unlimited
63-G, Jalan SL1/4
Bandar Sg. Long, Kajang Selangor 43000
03-907-6572

Taman Tun Dr. Ismail Veterinary Clinic
119, Jalan Tun Aminudin Baki
Taman Tun Dr. Ismail, Kuala Lumpur 60000
03-77294296

The Paws Concerto
32 Jalan USJ 10/1
UEP, Subang Jaya Selangor 47620
03-56373090

Toby Pets Supplies
272L,Jalan Air Itam
P.Penang, 11400
04-8297843

Trendy Pet Shop Sdn. Bhd.
No:1A,Lot 210,Batu 4 1/2
Gombak
Kuala Lumpur, 53000
03-40218284

U R My Pet House Sdn. Bhd. (Ampang Branch)
19,Ground Floor,Jalan AWF 1,
Ampang Water Front
Ampang Selangor, 68000
016-2210233

U R My Pet House Sdn. Bhd. (HQ)
36,Ground Floor,Jalan Semangat
Seksyen 14
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 46100
03-79566186

U R My Pet House Sdn. Bhd. (Kajang Branch)
24G, Jalan Nilam 1
Taman Nilam, Kajang Selangor 43300
03-87342728

Uptown Pets Centre
6,Jalan SS21/39
Damansara Utama
Petaling Jaya Selangor, 47400
1

Winner Pets Plaza
3,Jalan Tun Mohamad Fuad 3
Taman Tun Dr. Ismail
Kuala Lumpur, 60000
03-77278469

http://www.naturapet.com/where-to-buy/international.asp

[honeybun]

Oooiiih...banyaknyer! Terkezut sebab first address kat sabah! Rupernyer panjang lagi list tuh. Lol!

Ok, thanks Nur, ada a few in Subang and Shah Alam. My regular shop tu ada Origen jek.

[nurkasih]

Originally Posted by honeybun

Oooiiih...banyaknyer! Terkezut sebab first address kat sabah! Rupernyer panjang lagi list tuh. Lol!

Ok, thanks Nur, ada a few in Subang and Shah Alam. My regular shop tu ada Origen jek.

Orijin should be okay already kan..

[June]

yg pertama dlm list tu bukan kat Sabahlah.kat Sarawak

Originally Posted by honeybun

Oooiiih...banyaknyer! Terkezut sebab first address kat sabah! Rupernyer panjang lagi list tuh. Lol!

Ok, thanks Nur, ada a few in Subang and Shah Alam. My regular shop tu ada Origen jek.

[FurKids]

Orijen ni ramai orang senyap sedikit sekarang kerana hari tu ada terdapat insiden kematian (kerosakan buah pinggang) kucing daripada shipment masuk ke Australia yg mengenakan proses irradiation terhadap produk binatang yg tidak dimasak menggunakan suhu yg cukup tinggi bagi membunuh kuman (biasanya holistic type punyer makanan dimasak menggunakan suhu yg lebih rendah dengan matlamat tidak membinasakan nutrients) tetapi di Malaysia pun terdapat kes kematian kucing akibat kerosakan buah pinggang bagi kucing yg diberi makan Orijen yg diperolehi daripada Canada walaupun produk tersebut tidak melalui proses irradiation semasa dimasukkan ke dalam negara kita.

[honeybun]

Originally Posted by June

yg pertama dlm list tu bukan kat Sabahlah.kat Sarawak

Nampak jer ko, ek June! Sebeno nyer, dah nampak, tapi terlambat. Maleh nak edit.