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11-05-2009, 01:52 PM
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To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
how old is your cat?? normally we do vaccination first before neuter.but for strays neuter/spaying are more important than vaccination to control them from multiplying. Complication after the surgery?? Unless they are incompetent vet,I don't face any complication after neutering all my cats. For male cat, the process is very simple and quick. For female cat,the process take at least 1-2 hours because removing their ovary is consider major operation.
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Originally Posted by Halim66
Thanks... but what about vaccination? is it a must before neuter? i wanna make sure about this becoz there's a guy from the pet shop told me that without vaccination, my cat might have a complication after the surgery and let say if i did the vaccination now, can i sent my cat for neuter right after the vaccination?
The bottom line is, i need to do it now.... or never.
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11-05-2009, 01:53 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Originally Posted by Halim66
Wallawei, i tot neutered animals will lost their mating desire? not only animals, orang pun boleh bunuh diri maa!! it's sound to me like "mati pucuk" already or maybe this will only happened when neutered process was done a bit too late?
Another thing is, i've got no idea how old is he... and whether i can sent him for neuter without vaccination...
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Hahaaha, so did I. But my Dexter's case, I neutered him very late i.e at 2yo. Masa i got him from petshop, he was already 2 yo, caged and never had a female. So memang dia dah stressed - Imagine being caged for 2 years!!.
Yes, this does happen when you neuter too late hence a good age to neuter is at 6 months.
When I neutered Dexter, he had already started spraying and getting on heat. It didnt help that due to my ignorance at the time, I brought in Sophie yang suka baring2 terkangkang hahaha...lagilah stress the boy.
So the vet told me, that even a neutered male get go on heat especially when he's nuetered late in life like Dexter because he does not realise that he has been castrated. And an already stressed male, when confronted with a female releases testestrone (dunno how its spelt) from glands located above his kidneys. So those male hormones develops those desires eventho castrated! - baru lah I tau bila vet advised me
So, lesson learnt, hantarlah you cat for neutering before he starts spraying like Kak June says. Take him to the vet. The vet can gauge how old your kitten is. Hmm...where did you get him from? And yes, you need to vaccinate first. That's very important. Neutering can be done 2 weeks after you vaccinate.
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11-05-2009, 01:55 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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incik Halim66, hehehe ber incik incik pulak, jangan risau, kucing takan merasa yang jatuh egonya kalau di 'potong', dan kucing pun takan merasa merendah diri kalau dah di 'potong'....
kucing bersifat kewilayahan, bukan kemachoan hehehehe, manusia je yang susah nak mengaku bende bende sensitip nih... kucing tak dak hal....
huhuhu
gurauan di waktu tengahari dikala mengantuk kerana kekenyangan makan tengah hari
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Bukan keegoan, tapi KEPERLUAN... i've never done this before, so kena byk tanya lah skit sebab i tak nak kucing i suffer, biar i susah skit tapi kucing i senang... sebab kalau takat tak nak bagi kucing kencing memancut bersepah, elok tak bela kucing langsung...
I boleh tension kalau tengok kucing i tension gak...
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11-05-2009, 01:56 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Betul betul kak june. Kan kes Dexter ni kes kesian. dah 2 tahun petshop tu tak neuter. Tu yang dia stress gila. Telinga Fareen ni lah yang naik pekak berminggu minggu dia menjerit. Dahlah Sophie tu suka baring2 kangkang
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11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
Bang Halim,setakat spray tu takde masalah.masalah yg paling besar bila dia nak mengawan,satu taman perumahan akan terdengar ngauman dia pastu suka gaduh2 dgn kucing jantan lain rebut betina.itu yg balik rmh calar balar/luka sana sini.rayau jauh2 cari betina.kdg2 tak pulang langsung.happen to my neighbour's cat. tau2 jumpa 3 km dari rmh.dah mati kena gelek keta bila dah kena neuter kucing takkan rayau jauh2 dah.dah jd homeboy.
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Originally Posted by Halim66
Bukan keegoan, tapi KEPERLUAN... i've never done this before, so kena byk tanya lah skit sebab i tak nak kucing i suffer, biar i susah skit tapi kucing i senang... sebab kalau takat tak nak bagi kucing kencing memancut bersepah, elok tak bela kucing langsung...
I boleh tension kalau tengok kucing i tension gak...
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11-05-2009, 02:01 PM
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11-05-2009, 02:15 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Originally Posted by Halim66
Bukan keegoan, tapi KEPERLUAN... i've never done this before, so kena byk tanya lah skit sebab i tak nak kucing i suffer, biar i susah skit tapi kucing i senang... sebab kalau takat tak nak bagi kucing kencing memancut bersepah, elok tak bela kucing langsung...
I boleh tension kalau tengok kucing i tension gak...
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Hmmm...on neutering ni, mmg some people are not keen on it, takut kucing stress, takut kucing sakit etc. Whatever the reason is, in my opinion, based on reading and also advise from forumers, we need to consider these things:-
1) Un-neutered cats will need to mate when the season comes.
- If we do not allow them to mate when they're sexually ready
(Most kittens 6mths above for there are cases of some breeds, they
get sexually active 4mths above), they can develop feline deseases and
infections.
2) Unneutered cats are generally prone to infections.
3) Neutered cats are less aggressive than unneutered cats.
4) [B] But MOST IMPORTANTLY, unneutered cats contribute to the
countless strays and homeless cats out there. Giving all owners the
benefit of the doubt, most will say that they never intended to breed or
never intended to put the cats up for adoption la la la la but when posed
with a situation where their cats give birth to let's say 6 kittens and then
they realise OMG, they cost a bomb i.e vaccination, food, general care
etc, not to mention that its damn tiring, they give up...Kak June can
elaborate more on this.
Just like our boys (2 legged ones hehe), lepas bersunat, there will be physical and psychological changes. Similar to our cats, only that the cats changes are for the better. Plus they eat better too so you just need to watch it to make sure he doesn't become obese because neutering does slow down the cat's metabolic rate.
So, no, neutering is not just about avoiding cats spraying cos mind you, even if they are neutered, they can still spray as its in the cats nature to be territorial as mentioned earlier. There are other more important reasons as listed above.
Kak June and the others, tolong tambah kalau ada
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11-05-2009, 02:26 PM
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11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Originally Posted by June
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TQ Kak June. Bila dah tak kerja ni, banyak time nak belek kucing, buat research and suka2 hati pergi vet hehehe.. kejap pegi, kejap pegi macam orang kaya
I think kadang2 Dexter and Sophie sure mengeluh tuan dia asyik kat rumah je
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11-05-2009, 02:37 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Originally Posted by Halim66
I boleh tension kalau tengok kucing i tension gak...
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Hahahahahhaaaaa!!!!
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Originally Posted by Fareen
.... Dahlah Sophie tu suka baring2 kangkang
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Hahahahahhaaaaa!!!! Korang nie buat aku sakit perut laaaaaaa ......
Satu lagi, Fareen, Dr. Hasnul will tell you that kalau kembiri awal umur dia around 6-7 bulan tu muker dia akan kekal like a little boy ... muker dia cute kecik tak macam muker lebar besar kucing dewasa tu ... kikikikikiiiiiiiii!!!!!!
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11-05-2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Hahahahahhaaaaa!!!! Hahahahahhaaaaa!!!! Korang nie buat aku sakit perut laaaaaaa ......
Satu lagi, Fareen, Dr. Hasnul will tell you that kalau kembiri awal umur dia around 6-7 bulan tu muker dia akan kekal like a little boy ... muker dia cute kecik tak macam muker lebar besar kucing dewasa tu ... kikikikikiiiiiiiii!!!!!!
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hahahah FK, Dexter tu dah terlewat kot, cos kembiri lambat heheh. Dia sekarang maintain macho
So, sophie tu maintain muka kiut lah tu heheheh.
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11-05-2009, 03:09 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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hahahah FK, Dexter tu dah terlewat kot, cos kembiri lambat heheh. Dia sekarang maintain macho
So, sophie tu maintain muka kiut lah tu heheheh.
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Hahahaaaaa!!! No, Fareen, that dragon face only the adult male will develop, Sophie's kind punyer muker will be awet comel, spayed or unspayed ....
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11-05-2009, 03:14 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
Ok, i think i'd enuff input on this . It'll be much easier if he's still very young. Even the previous owner can't really tell how old is this boy, "rasa-2nya dlm 5 bulan kot"... i pun blurr nak agak-2 umur Si Rain ni. Tapi kalau tengok pada size testicles dia, alahaiii... like a peanut jer!!
When i was a kid, i used to put my cat (female lah) dlm sangkar ayam bila kucing-2 jantan dah mula berkumpul dan "berkaraoke" kat laman rumah, dlm seminggu. This family planning method works fine for my cat at that time laa.. cuma ter pregnant 2 kali jer
Anyway, thank you all for the info's. Will do it and hopefully i've been guided to the right direction...
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11-05-2009, 04:05 PM
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11-05-2009, 04:16 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
Rasanya vet yg berpengalaman boleh agak umur kucing dari saiz badan dan gigi .. well, Salem saya sunat umur 6 bulan (walhal testikel dia besar guli jek) . Entah yek..saya suka neuter kucing saya.. tak sabar2 menunggu cukup 6 bulan .. although si Neko-chan (female) terlambat sikit sebab salah timing (in between vaksin berat dia go over 2kg).. aduh..pening kepala dgr dia melolong almost 3 weeks.
Phewwww, thank God didn't turn me to be one of yours...
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11-05-2009, 04:34 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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... Phewwww, thank God didn't turn me to be one of yours...
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Tak juga, kawan, a neutered boy actually will have a better quality life than an unneutered one sebab he will be less stressed and healthier ... minus risk of cancer later on, reduced risks of contracting many serious infections through mating and injuries through fights, reduced risks of dying in accidents being knocked down by cars and motorbikes while pursuing females or being chased and escaping from being bashed by other ferocious males, getting lost while pursing females away from home territory, etc. etc. The only thing missed is sex but for animals it is hard-wired and a wham-bang thing, unlike humans.
Halim, I have lost count of how many male cats I picked up at garbage dumps, longkangs and roadside to send for neuter and release after that. Mereka semua were once beautiful and magnificent pets of someone who failed to neuter them for their own safety and got lost, hungry, sick, injured, dirty and lost their way home. I have removed so many frayed and dirty collars and bells from their necks. Kesian betul .... how they suffered through the mistakes and misjudgements of their misdirected owners ... if only their former owners could see them in their pitiful conditions and imagine how their pets had suffered ...........
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11-05-2009, 04:44 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Tak juga, kawan, a neutered boy actually will have a better quality life than an unneutered one sebab he will be less stressed and healthier ... minus risk of cancer later on, reduced risks of contracting many serious infections through mating and injuries through fights, reduced risks of dying in accidents being knocked down by cars and motorbikes while pursuing females or being chased and escaping from being bashed by other ferocious males, getting lost while pursing females away from home territory, etc. etc. The only thing missed is sex but for animals it is hard-wired and a wham-bang thing, unlike humans.
Halim, I have lost count of how many male cats I picked up at garbage dumps, longkangs and roadside to send for neuter and release after that. Mereka semua were once beautiful and magnificent pets of someone who failed to neuter them for their own safety and got lost, hungry, sick, injured, dirty and lost their way home. I have removed so many frayed and dirty collars and bells from their necks. Kesian betul .... how they suffered through the mistakes and misjudgements of their misdirected owners ... if only their former owners could see them in their pitiful conditions and imagine how their pets had suffered ...........
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See I knew you could give a better explanation than me. Well said well said. next time this subject comes up, i cut and paste from here je lah except for the part picking up from garbage dumps cos i havent gone thru that yet.
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11-05-2009, 05:10 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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Tak juga, kawan, a neutered boy actually will have a better quality life than an unneutered one sebab he will be less stressed and healthier ... minus risk of cancer later on, reduced risks of contracting many serious infections through mating and injuries through fights, reduced risks of dying in accidents being knocked down by cars and motorbikes while pursuing females or being chased and escaping from being bashed by other ferocious males, getting lost while pursing females away from home territory, etc. etc. The only thing missed is sex but for animals it is hard-wired and a wham-bang thing, unlike humans.
Halim, I have lost count of how many male cats I picked up at garbage dumps, longkangs and roadside to send for neuter and release after that. Mereka semua were once beautiful and magnificent pets of someone who failed to neuter them for their own safety and got lost, hungry, sick, injured, dirty and lost their way home. I have removed so many frayed and dirty collars and bells from their necks. Kesian betul .... how they suffered through the mistakes and misjudgements of their misdirected owners ... if only their former owners could see them in their pitiful conditions and imagine how their pets had suffered ...........
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I've got the message already my fren, just jokin jer lah... but the line " saya suka neuter kucing saya"... bulu tengkok pun naik oooOOOOoo
I'm sure we did it for good, not suka-suka
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11-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
ada sorang member petfinder bgtau...kalo mandi kan diorg...mandikan ramai2 dan sekali dlm satu besen ...biar air tuh bercampur bau badan diorg...pastu nanti masa dia jilat2 badan n kering tu...mesti dh bersatu bau...so mesti ingt kawan dia.,...heheheheh
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11-05-2009, 05:34 PM
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Re: To avoid a cat fight ? ? ?
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ada sorang member petfinder bgtau...kalo mandi kan diorg...mandikan ramai2 dan sekali dlm satu besen ...biar air tuh bercampur bau badan diorg...pastu nanti masa dia jilat2 badan n kering tu...mesti dh bersatu bau...so mesti ingt kawan dia.,...heheheheh
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Good idea, bunyik mcm ada logik.. in my case, nak mandikan sekor yg baru adopt tu pun kena 2 orang, me and my mrs... so at the end, me and mrs yg basah... no wonder my mrs makin sayang dan sayang kat saya.. he he he he
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