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Old 06-25-2010, 04:52 PM
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ye lah..actually, Persian breed is a mistaken breed. tp, now, in all world cat clubs - cfa, tica, fife, gccf - the best cat should be persian breed. kira a great evolution of the breed. i enjoy tgk org ada persian dan jaga dgn baik..tp i pndang rendah pd org ade persian, tp dh jd mcm exotic dgn sakit sana sini...i takkan sekali2 jaga persian sebab i tau kt mana limit i..jaga kucing ikot limit..itu lg logikal

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surely do.. my vet actually not very happy when i got mine.. dia selalu ulang benda sama 'unethical breeding' and 'some breeders go to the extend of breeding among siblings becoz this kind of cat is kinda expensive, so jalan senang..breed sesama beradik and the bad genes..became worst..

i learnt the hard way tho..

at least mine will not have any baby.
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Ooo....
Nanti Nurul tolong tanyakan ye...
Tu hari dia ada tanya kat Nurul tapi Nurul lupa nama Kasih yang betul jadi Nurul kata tak kenal
Sorry ek...
Nanti Nurul tolong Kasih
Thank you kak Nurul.. need serious arrangement of $$$ already..they are multiplying as we speak
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:10 PM
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Kalau hendak yg hanya warna putih sahaja, saya ada soalan cepumas utk korang ni ... mcm mana korang nak pastikan bahawa kedua-dua jantan dan betina yg akan digunakan utk breeding hanya mengeluarkan anak-anak yg bulu warna putih sahaja?

Macam mana korang nak pastikan kedua-dua mak dan bapak kucing putih benar-benar mempunyai gene putih jenis homozygous dekat chromosome mereka?

In the dominant white, the other genes for color and pattern are still present, but they are completely hidden. The only way to determine the underlying genotype is by test matings with colored cats of (reasonably) well-known genotype.

Breeding two dominant whites will mostly produce solid white kittens, but if both of the parents are heterozygous (W/w), then the underlying colors may appear on a few of the kittens. Unless the genotypes of the whites are known from pedigree or test breeding, the results are unpredictable.

Jadi, sekiranya dapat anak kucing yg berkaler dan tidak cantik, apa korang nak buat dengan mereka? Sebab aku jumpa baaaaaaaaaanyak sangat yg dibuang kat tepi jalan, tong sampah, warong, pasar dan sebagainya.

Jadi, selain daripada $$ untuk beli pasangan Mak dan Bapa kucing utk breed bagi memperolehi anak all-white, muker penyet, kiut-miut, masa dan tenaga utnk menjaga dsbnya, sila fikir masak-masak apa nak dibuat dengan anak-anak kucing yg dilahirkan bukan putih dan kurang kiut-miut, ya?
white is dominant so u dont need to have both parent to be white.
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Baby powder adalah "talc", dulu time mak kita selalu suka taroh kat baby. Sekarang jarang orang yg celik gunakannya sebab "talc" is bad, especially apabila masuk ke dalam paru-paru melalui pernafasan. Anyway, the cat is a licking animal, that makes things even worse. Boric acid? Nak taroh kat mata anak bulus?

Itu peniaga tidak bertanggungjawab ada la gunakan kat ikan, daging, fishballs, makanan lain sebagai pengawet supaya lambat busuk, especially pasar malam tapi amat merbahaya kepada kesihatan.
salam furkid...

saya hanya beri option dan i rasa xsalah berkongsi pengetahuan. terpulang pada semua tuk ikut atau tidak. apa yg saya cadangkan hasil dari pembacaan saya mengenai kucing dan bukan pandai2 dan tidak berasas.

boric asid powder masih digunakan oleh breeder2 sebagai eyes wipe. here are some links regarding boric asid powder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boric_acid
http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/grooming/grooming4.htm
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5545013_bo...itis-cats.html
*some of contact solution do contain boric asid

as for the baby powder i read from couple of cats books. baby powder usually used for long hair cats.

well all know that forum is for sharing info and opinion.

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Old 06-25-2010, 07:07 PM
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A'ah..mcm tu la yg sy minat sgt...
mmg susah jage...huhuhu
dee...bleh taw x...
brp ye awk beli die??
ade sampai lbh dr 3.5k ke?
cost sebulan jaga die brpe??
hana..

i tak beli anugerah tapi dah jual anugerah pada seseorang dgn harga 2.5k without breeding rights.

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Akak dah habis sabar ni dgn korang semua yg pakai bahasa sms.

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Bahasa apa kat atas ni?? Tolonglah jgn tulis bahasa bahasa sms yg keterlaluan.klu short form boleh tp jgn smp juling mata orang yg nak baca termasuk akak. Orang orang kat forum ni bukan dari golongan yg tulis bahasa sms tp byk golongan lain juga.akak byk terima complaint pasal durang tak faham langsung korang tulis apa.so they stay away.

Come on guys!!! Jgn malukan guru bahasa anda. Kita bukan tulis sms kat handphone tp menulis utk dibaca oleh semua golongan yg nak berkongsi ilmu. Jgn salahkan orang orang yg tak mau kasih nasihat sebab jenuh nak menterjemah tulisan korang.termasuklah akak. Bosan nak baca coz berjam jam nak faham.
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hye hana....i dgr u nk kucing pure breed white color&flat face...actually ssh nk jaga kucen cm 2..klu u ada ksungguhan,blhla...klu juz separuh jln jer,cian kat kucen 2....i suggest u try cari kt mudah.com..br td i view ada seekor white kitten pure breed nk jual..tp area kelantan la...semi flat face...harga dia juz tkr dgn 2bag blackwood kitten 24kg jer...tls bahasa yg btl&sng d fahami coz tkt kna mrh dgn k.june..

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Yer.....bahasa yang senang difahami...bukan apa....dah terbiasa...hehehehe
okay!!! bermula training dari sekarang...

a'ah. nak kuceng yang putih...putih betul-betul putih dan flat...
memang tahu pun susah sangat-sangat nak jaga....tapi teringin...
dah ada kucen yang putih...tapi tak flat...so nak try carik yang flat....
dan insyaallah....akan cuba sedaya yang boleh untuk menjaganya...
ye ke...thanks.

nanti la try tengok kat mudah.
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hye hana....i dgr u nk kucing pure breed white color&flat face...actually ssh nk jaga kucen cm 2..klu u ada ksungguhan,blhla...klu juz separuh jln jer,cian kat kucen 2....i suggest u try cari kt mudah.com..br td i view ada seekor white kitten pure breed nk jual..tp area kelantan la...semi flat face...harga dia juz tkr dgn 2bag blackwood kitten 24kg jer...tls bahasa yg btl&sng d fahami coz tkt kna mrh dgn k.june..
PLEASE..jangan sekali-kali terlibat dengan orang ini kerana banyak orang sudah tertipu dengan dia. kucing tu sudah berbulan-bulan lamanya dia iklankan dalam mudah.com...dan, saya tidak yakin bahawa itu adalah kucing yang dia nak jual..kadang-kadang, gambar lain. tp yang nyatanya lain. sila berhati-hati dalam mencari apa yang korang inginkan ok? Terima kasih.
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white is dominant so u dont need to have both parent to be white.
No true because I have personally seen pure white mom cats giving birth to colored or mixed white kittens. Yes, the moms really did not have any non-white colors on them ... memang semua putih, comel dan bersih! I have read about it and seeing the results is believing!
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salam furkid...

saya hanya beri option dan i rasa xsalah berkongsi pengetahuan. terpulang pada semua tuk ikut atau tidak. apa yg saya cadangkan hasil dari pembacaan saya mengenai kucing dan bukan pandai2 dan tidak berasas.

boric asid powder masih digunakan oleh breeder2 sebagai eyes wipe. here are some links regarding boric asid powder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boric_acid
http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/grooming/grooming4.htm
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5545013_bo...itis-cats.html
*some of contact solution do contain boric asid

as for the baby powder i read from couple of cats books. baby powder usually used for long hair cats.

well all know that forum is for sharing info and opinion.
Yes, Asmaradonut, there are MANY things that breeders do, but it still does not necessary mean that what they do is right and safe. Breeders are business-driven mostly, and many bad things have been breeded into the animals for profit ... looks/appearance over health for profits and human gain. Read the book "Animals In Translation". At least for dogs, some breeds have been banned because they have produced such unhealthy freaks which suffer poor health for the rest of their lives. The Persian flat-face continue to suffer for human vainity. The poor, poor cats! Just look at their poor ever-wet eyes, listen to the way they breathe!
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ye lah..actually, Persian breed is a mistaken breed. tp, now, in all world cat clubs - cfa, tica, fife, gccf - the best cat should be persian breed. kira a great evolution of the breed. i enjoy tgk org ada persian dan jaga dgn baik..tp i pndang rendah pd org ade persian, tp dh jd mcm exotic dgn sakit sana sini...i takkan sekali2 jaga persian sebab i tau kt mana limit i..jaga kucing ikot limit..itu lg logikal
Aiyoyoh, MiaMelissa ... jangan la kata cam tu .... kecik hati peminat breed lain ... memang the Persian breed has been popular a very, very long time but as time went by, many no-less beautiful other breeds have become extremely popular and less maintenance involved (without the fur getting matted so easily because their hair structure is different) macam the Mainecoons, Norwegian Forest (very, very beautiful cats indeed!).

You know what? Frankly, if you give me a pedigree Persian, aku akan ambik dan terus pergi jualkan dan guna $$ tu beli Mainecoon or Norwegian Forest, dan aku simpan bela dan sayang! Untuk saya mereka lebih lawa (especially the face) dan lower fuss with the fur. Betul tak, Coony?

Wakakakakkaaaa!!!!!!
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Akak dah habis sabar ni dgn korang semua yg pakai bahasa sms.

Xde,xpe,die,kete,kene,sy,pn,nk

Bahasa apa kat atas ni?? Tolonglah jgn tulis bahasa bahasa sms yg keterlaluan.klu short form boleh tp jgn smp juling mata orang yg nak baca termasuk akak. Orang orang kat forum ni bukan dari golongan yg tulis bahasa sms tp byk golongan lain juga.akak byk terima complaint pasal durang tak faham langsung korang tulis apa.so they stay away.

Come on guys!!! Jgn malukan guru bahasa anda. Kita bukan tulis sms kat handphone tp menulis utk dibaca oleh semua golongan yg nak berkongsi ilmu. Jgn salahkan orang orang yg tak mau kasih nasihat sebab jenuh nak menterjemah tulisan korang.termasuklah akak. Bosan nak baca coz berjam jam nak faham.
Mak aiiii!!!! Sudah sikit jadi macam Jay Tokay kampung lama laaaa ....

Ya, marahkan budak-budak sms nie, tak dengar cakap cikgu ... rotan, rotan, rotan kasi sama dia .....

Nah, untuk cikgu pagi ini ... dan aku cepat cabut lariiieeeeeeeee !!!!!!
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Mak aiiii!!!! Sudah sikit jadi macam Jay Tokay kampung lama laaaa ....

Ya, marahkan budak-budak sms nie, tak dengar cakap cikgu ... rotan, rotan, rotan kasi sama dia .....

Nah, untuk cikgu pagi ini ... dan aku cepat cabut lariiieeeeeeeee !!!!!!
Betul laa.. bahasa sms ni buat aku fenin... mula-2 nak jugak follow tapi bila aku baca penuh dgn shorthand, pitam.... aku kalau nak baca masa kat rumah, aku kena panggil anak aku yg darjah 4 tolong translate kan..
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Aiyoyoh, MiaMelissa ... jangan la kata cam tu .... kecik hati peminat breed lain ... memang the Persian breed has been popular a very, very long time but as time went by, many no-less beautiful other breeds have become extremely popular and less maintenance involved (without the fur getting matted so easily because their hair structure is different) macam the Mainecoons, Norwegian Forest (very, very beautiful cats indeed!).

You know what? Frankly, if you give me a pedigree Persian, aku akan ambik dan terus pergi jualkan dan guna $$ tu beli Mainecoon or Norwegian Forest, dan aku simpan bela dan sayang! Untuk saya mereka lebih lawa (especially the face) dan lower fuss with the fur. Betul tak, Coony?

Wakakakakkaaaa!!!!!!
Agree with FK..
kecik hati peminat breed lain..

Masalah kt Malaysia nie, org kita cuma kenal persian.. asal bulu panjang je persian.. padahal banyak lagi breed lain yg bulu panjang..

Same goes to me, i'm not a fan of persian cat.
I like short hair more macam British shorthair, Exotic shorthair..
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Agree with FK..
kecik hati peminat breed lain..

Masalah kt Malaysia nie, org kita cuma kenal persian.. asal bulu panjang je persian.. padahal banyak lagi breed lain yg bulu panjang..

Same goes to me, i'm not a fan of persian cat.
I like short hair more macam British shorthair, Exotic shorthair..
Oh yeessssssss! The British shorthair pun aku sukerrrrrrrr!!!!! The personality absolutely 1st class !!!!!!

Aku punyer febret hari tu ... aku dapat dokong peluk free (hahahhahahaa!!!) ... sampai hari nie aku masih mimpi the fantastic feeling ..... memang 1st class personality!!!!!!
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Agree with FK..
kecik hati peminat breed lain..

Masalah kt Malaysia nie, org kita cuma kenal persian.. asal bulu panjang je persian.. padahal banyak lagi breed lain yg bulu panjang..

Same goes to me, i'm not a fan of persian cat.
I like short hair more macam British shorthair, Exotic shorthair..
Yana we both have the same taste
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Bro,mata aku dah juling tengok bahasa sms ni.durang post nak minta tlg,tp aku dan lain lain nak reply pun berjam jam nak translate tulisan sms.mana aku tak naik gila.elok elok dah bg gentle reminder dok buat lg.so kena kuar roti panjanglah.

so elok elok kita nak tlg jawab dan bg pandangan atau suggestions dah hilang interest coz berjam jam nak translate their language. is their lost not us.

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Mak aiiii!!!! Sudah sikit jadi macam Jay Tokay kampung lama laaaa ....

Ya, marahkan budak-budak sms nie, tak dengar cakap cikgu ... rotan, rotan, rotan kasi sama dia .....

Nah, untuk cikgu pagi ini ... dan aku cepat cabut lariiieeeeeeeee !!!!!!
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Bro,mata aku dah juling tengok bahasa sms ni.durang post nak minta tlg,tp aku dan lain lain nak reply pun berjam jam nak translate tulisan sms.mana aku tak naik gila.elok elok dah bg gentle reminder dok buat lg.so kena kuar roti panjanglah.

so elok elok kita nak tlg jawab dan bg pandangan atau suggestions dah hilang interest coz berjam jam nak translate their language. is their lost not us.
Tu la orang-orang nie (bukan budak, kebanyakan dah mak dan bapak budak pun, tapi perangai mcm budak-budak) dok pikir diri dia sendiri, tulis cara senang utk sendiri tak pikiak orang yg membaca yg dia mintak tolong tu atau cuba mencerminkan suatu imej baik utk diri sendiri. Ramai yg student pun, tapi tulisan dan bahasa manyak-manyak tiiiiiirukkkk! Amacam nak cari kerja besok? Sapa lah nak employ?

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