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Muslims Handling Swine and Canines
This is an interesting read. Click on the link if you are interested in the point of view of a vet who handles both pigs and dogs.
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aahahaa.. there are strong points too there.. thats why we need to know our religion(s) inside.. then to the outside.
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hi forummers,
umm.. the article isn't in english.. can someone tell me what it generally says? |
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woohoo!!! i read melayu better than someone here!!! finally.. YOOHOO.. ehm i cant write much while working.. only have time for unimportant comments.. sorry lynie.
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{nah} hmph!!! i'm glad you're happy {shy}
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OK, I will attempt to translate, lol! BM kinda rusty..
Basically there were pics circulating on the internet concerning a vet student at UPM handling pigs and dogs. Presumably, the person in the pic is Muslim, and some people are of the opinion that this makes a mockery of or insults the religion. The author's point is that Muslims are not suppose to eat the meat of dogs & pigs, but touching them is fine. Further, as vets, they should uphold their oath to ensure the comfort/health of ALL animals. If a Muslim touches a pig/dog, it's fine as long as he/she washes with water & a certain type of soil after touching the animal. |
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ahhhh i see!! thank you very much somebunny!! sounds like a very enlightening article {good}
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correct me if i'm wrong.... |
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also i've heard that there is a special soap available now for muslims who have dogs. |
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OH.. i thought 'darurat' was 'curfew or state of emergency'?? LOL, my BM has flown out the window..
i'm curious about the soil.. what type of soil are muslims supposed to use? is it easy to find? and how does it work? mix the soil in a bit of water and scrub the body parts which came into contact with the dog? |
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oh apparently there was a booth promoting "samak soap" for muslim dog handlers during the oct 4 adoption drive at bsv
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let this indon girl come to the rescueee!!
TEACHING LESSON 101: DARURAT MEANS A STATE OF EMERGENCY. yiippiieeee i am so smart! ahahaha ashley and lynie is worse than me.. hahahaa suddenly the world is a brighter place, KAPOOWW *smacked by lynie's and ashley's pets* |
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chelly, i'm going to make your day.....I didn't know what's darurat either!! {shy}
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so meaning if lets say there is an injured dog in the middle of the road.. we can move the dog to a safer place even if we dun wear gloves so as not to touch directly to the dog...because if we leave it on the road, it can cause harm to the dog, example being hit by a car.. something like that. in that kind of situation we can touch dogs..but we need to clean up later on... there is a soap that we can use.. its call taharah - the brand name.. but then there has been several issues regarding the soap....not pure soil n some other reasons... Quote:
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tanah yang perlu digunakan ialah tanah liat yang suci daripada segala jenis kotoran...not taht easy to find... u really need to be sure that the soil is really clean.... the first batch of water u need to mix with the soil n clean your hands n feet (whichever part that kena the dog ), then u need to clean again with pure clean water ( yang diyakini bersih ) 6 times... during the cleaning u need to niat that u want to cleanse urself... i hope this is the correct info i'm giving u guys coz that is what i understood when i studied in secondary school... ehehe... hope its clear... {victory} |
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Blackie... BANZAIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!
anyways is this samak soap is a replacement for the soil? i have to add that my indon helper just took red soil in our garden and use it to wash her hands with water, so there's a human factor there too. so once again.. its niat that counts isnt it.. |
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sorry la, chelly, can't help u there...i'm blur as a sotong. {shy}
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Tx for the info, filinlee {good} |
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huhu... most of people will think it's hard to find clean soil because lot of people think that the soil itself is a dirt... hehehe... well.. it's easy, you can find mud soil anywhere as long as it is clean from other secondary dirt such as blood, or human/ animal waste <-- this one not so sure since a lot of people (especially those construction worker from pakistani or bangladeshi like to pee everywhere) huhuhu... (i'm so sorry to say that to our pakistani/bangladeshi bro & sis), well this is based on my general observation... not to say all... but a part of them... back to the soil story... as long as the soil is not contaminated with dirt or in malay we call it najis (mostly from organic lives).. it should be fine... {shy}{shy}
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yeap.. thats true...nak cari tanah yang di yakini bersih agak susah jugak sekarang nih... tu bila sabun taharah tuh kuar ada ramai yang pertikai kan...ntah la...x tau nak cakap...x brapa nak pandai bab2 nih.. karang tersalah info lak... |
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I have a question. A fundamental question.
Does muslims have a story or a reason for the action? like why pigs and dogs only, and not rabbits or snakes or monkey. Is there like a story or sumthing to it? I ask many friends before, they told me that they are 'unpure', some say they dont know but thats the rules, thats about all the answer i get. Anyone can help me out. just curious. hehe. :D |
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i'll add some more some story and facts more about this, hope if i miss something or have the wrong facts, someone might be able to correct me..{wink}{victory} thanks...{happy} |
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from time to time i'll try to find the facts in english version and add more infos on this.. if i have gotten any facts wrong than i'm truly sorry, please do correct the infos if it's wrong.. thanks..{wink}{victory} |
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Well, i wouldn't say that pork is a sin but eating or touching it is unlawful(haram) for muslim.. hope this won't creat any tension in this forum as this is just a knowledge to shared..{wink}{victory} the most important is is to hold to what you believe and beside that God loves all animals as he's the creator of all and at the same time no matter what religion or where we came from, all animals desreve our compassionate are care mostly in time needed to do so..{happy} |
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OMG OMG OMG OMG~!!
So many years (23years) have i eaten so many/much pork and didnt relise how harmfull it is to us humans. wow... Thanks babyzee... very very interesting info....learn alot... {good}... still not enough info about the dogs... the pig's story i think i m convinced... i will eat less pork from now on... bye bye char siu... bye bye siu yuk... bye bye bak kut teh.... hehehhee wow.... its really some eye opening infos... Thanks again. {wink} |
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is it about handling canine?
here is one of my post.you can read it here.. http://forums.petfinder.my/showpost....8&postcount=20 |
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no problem, i'm happy to help as i don't want people to have the wrong misconception, beside that i'm also a bit like you when coming to reasoning, like there must be a real reasons why certain things is like this or like that, etc etc.. i'll try to find more infos for dog but it's exactly the same concept as pigs that there are certain enzyme coming for dogs harmful to humans and for islam pigs and dogs are group as 'najis berat' which is unlawful (haram).. however comparing to pigs, atleast for muslim we might be able to keep dogs but must be on the purpose such as guarding the house, however the dog is not allowed to enter the house and can only stay outside.. i'll add infos from time to time...{wink}{victory} |
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there is a story i read from somewhere.. they said that rat are originally came from pig while cat are from tiger... you can see the similarity... rat doesn't have neck .. same goes to pig while.. cat.. obviously look like tiger.. but in small version... {mwidegrin}
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