Dog saves owner, but robber dies from injuries (NST)
 

By : Heidi Foo


TAMPIN: A dog lived up to its reputation as being man's best friend when it attacked a robber who got into a fight with its owner at Taman Asahan in Gemenceh yesterday morning.
But the dog and its owner may now be in trouble with the law after the robber died of his injuries at the Tampin Hospital several hours after he was attacked.

The dog owner, a 45-year-old security guard, has been detained by police to facilitate investigations, while the 3-year-old German Shepherd has gone missing,

The drama unfolded just after midnight yesterday when the suspected robber, armed with what is believed to be a piece of wood, confronted the guard, who was on duty at a shop selling construction material.

A struggle ensued between the two, and that was when the dog came to the rescue of its owner.
District police chief Superintendent Zull Aznam Haron said that the guard was believed to have been struck on the head in the struggle.

He managed to stop a passing motorist who took him to the Gemenceh police station, where he lodged a report. The dog, meanwhile, was left behind.

"The guard's face was covered in blood when he turned up at the police station," said Zull Aznam.

"He was taken to the Gemenceh health clinic where he received stitches for the wound on his head."

Zull Aznam said a police team went to the scene and found the suspect sprawled in front of the shop with injuries all over his body.

"When we found the suspect, he was still alive. He succumbed to his injuries at the Tampin district hospital an hour later."

He said the suspect's body was later sent to the Seremban Hospital for a post-mortem examination.

Initial checks revealed that the 29-year-old suspect was from Tebung in Alor Gajah, Malacca.


***** Harap si German Sheperd tu ditemui dengan selamat dan diberikan penghargaan yang sepatutnya tanpa prejudis ***

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I hope the German Sheperd will never be found and kept by people who know better, prolly the security guard's relatives or friends or any rescuer.

Trust me i would take the German Sheperd in myself! We know what will happen to dogs who got the taste of blood. To the robber.. tsk.. couldnt bother twice. He went suicide.

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I dont believe they will get wilder.. I really dont, maybe they are more certain to be agressive when they deem necessary. But the common practise is to put the dog down (euthanise them) as a safety precaution not to attack other (innocent ppl maybe) in the future. So yea.. hope the dog is never found.

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In an ideal world, the dog will be given a medal and citation but in malaysia - hmm, i just hope the poor dog is safe and well taken care of, even done quietly on the side, i don't place much hope on our authorities to see it justly and right. {cry2}

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Poor German Shepherd. I hope he is safe and sound, protected by the relatives of the security guard that he protected.

He's the hero here, and deserves to be recognized as such, not be treated like a criminal. I hope the authorities never find him.

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chemonk i just hope that it is a joke/humour on your part that you make this statement

no domesticated dog have even been know to attack human or other type of animal without any provocation...in cases where the animal attacked passer-by, one has to look at the history of the dog being brought up - was it trained to be extremely aggressive by being beaten and maltreated? in most cases, the answer is yes, the owner and handler with selfish intention, mistreat the dog to such extent that it become aggressive in defence of itself - its whole life is exposed to danger and threat from its owner the one person the dog trust implicit - the owner then exploit this aggressiveness for his/her own gain.

in times of famine, drought where food is scarce a domesticated dog that was let to run stray will eventually learn to form a pack in order to optimise their effort (time, energy) used in finding food. our domesticated animals such as hens,ducks, resemble the dog or its ancestors natural prey in the wild.

don't blame the dog for turning to its instinct to survive - where all animals will resort to its instinct to survice when pushed to the extreme - even human- blame the human beings who put them in such a situation.

in the case mentioned here, it is absolutely ridiculous to even think and believe, much less comment that a dog that tasted blood will be hungry to strike again for flood - that's an irreponsible personal opinion disguised as fact?

dogs have never hunted merely for blood - once they are domesticated, they have acquired a habit to eat our food and our table scraps and to scavenge for food in our rubbish dump. and even if they are truly hungry they will catch the small insects, rodents, lizards, etc.

to even suggest that the dog will turn into a human killer after tasting 1st blood borders on the absurb.

if you're intention is to inject humour -you're are free to do so provided you state it clearly - if you're intention is to invite a debate, you're free to do so but in a very responsible manner -

i'm disagreeing with you civilly. {shy}

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hehehe ashley, chemonk was saying about crocs la.. not dogs.. u ar.. hardcore dog lover, u read too fast, love!

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Wonderful dog! Truly man's best friend. That's why dogs are so awesome. The loyalty and devotion they have for their caregivers knows no bounds.

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no i did not read too fast - the inference here is clear.....{victory}

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Dog saves owner, but robber dies from injuries (NST)
 

yeah,me too.hope the german shepard will never be found.I should get myself GS too.I'll ask him to go and gigit the animal abuser and robbers

that dog is hero of the day,why hunting him?? kesian dia.

QUOTE=blackie007;15316]Poor German Shepherd. I hope he is safe and sound, protected by the relatives of the security guard that he protected.

He's the hero here, and deserves to be recognized as such, not be treated like a criminal. I hope the authorities never find him.[/QUOTE]

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yeah i saw the article this morning
yes i hope someone else find the dog and keep it
if let authorities take
i scare they do harm to the dog
there is nothing wrong if the dog trying to protect the owner
and he mauls

good the damn robber die
why take actions on the animal

some said the victim is attacked before but the way i read it they are trying to find fault with the dog {angry}

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that's always the case with the authorities and some unenlightened animals that call themselves humans.

they fail to understand that the dog was merely protecting its owner. let me pose a question. if the dog is a human child instead, who saw his father being struck on the head by the robber, as in this case, and rushed to attack the robber, and unfortunately the robber later succumbed to his injuries, would the authorities hunt this child and put him to death?

no way, right? and yet, just because the hero here is a dog and not a human child, it is not rewarded and praised, but gets to be hunted like a murderer. Even for murderers they don't kill them. they put the murderers on trial, and with a good a lawyer, they escape the death penalty.

it's an unfair world for the animals....{angry}{angry}

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{msure} the law nowadays just doesnt cover animal rights, dont they {mevil} the govt shud do somting abt the law n the constitution about not only protecting human rights but also on animal rights {msure}

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at times...you seen articles........ that you realize that ....why some authorities take the dogs..just because they gone wild or violent or attack
what they do is catch and put the dog down and tell everyone the dog is very harmful which is WRONG!!!!! {angry}

same like last time the articles about rottweiler being banned here

actually they don't understand the real situation or behavior of an animal

any animals dont do harm unless they have to kill to eat or you provoke them

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Hi all

babyzee is so kind, giving benefits of doubt. that's sweet of her. {victory}{shy}

but i do beg to differ - being kind to animal or being aware about animal, their condition, their situation, their emotional and physical needs and wants and the suffering they're subjected to, it doesn't need one to know how to read ABC.

all one need is an open mind, open heart - compassion - be mindful to all that is around you for none of us is an island.

this is the part i don't understand - why nobody gets it...or rather perhaps they get it but decided to turn a blind eye in the malaysian tradition of apathy.

is education is the yardstick and benchmark by which to measure a human being's compassion and loving kindness towards all sentient beings that are less fortunate that himself, then i'd say all the "tahu baca punye orang" akan fail habis2!

Dog saves owner, but robber dies from injuries (NST)
 

Education doesn't mean you are high above from everybody nor you are better than others and Dr Know All.But I believe everyday is learning process.what I not know today doesn't mean I don't know tommorrow.

Everybody deserve a second chance. We bash them kaw kaw but what about educating this people or all of us here for that matter?? We can start from the bottom and take it slowly.

I admit that i was the bodoh one when comes to cats or dogs before but I learned many things along the way and now I'm educating my few good neighbours,my colleagues and some close friends. They are very impressed with what I did and I told them,u can be part of this if you want to help the animals. Oh,by the way,I'm very angry with many things they did but I have to be patient.{good}

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Public wants dog protected


SEREMBAN: Animal lovers have come out in defence of the dog which attacked a robber during an attempted robbery in Taman Asahan, Gemenceh on Monday.

They urge the authorities to go easy on the dog, which investigations have revealed, is a stray that resembles a German Shepherd.

Police initially believed the dog belonged to the security company.

The New Straits Times offices in Seremban and Kuala Lumpur have been flooded with calls from animals lovers nationwide saying the dog was only following its instincts to protect its owner.

Meanwhile, Tampin district police chief Superintendent Zull Aznam Haron said they had learnt the dog was a stray that had befriended the security guard who was attacked during the attempted robbery.
"The dog did not belong to the security guard. The guard was assigned to a shop selling construction material and also an adjoining orchard," he said.

"The guard had fed the dog regularly and the canine would sleep beside the guardhouse at nights when the guard was on duty."

Zull Aznam believed a bond had formed between the guard and the dog, which resulted in the dog acting aggressively to protect the guard during the scuffle with the robber.

"We have tried to look for the dog and even visited the guard's house nearby, but there is no sign of the animal," he said.

The 29-year-old robber, who was also hit on the head by the guard, succumbed to his injuries an hour after he was sent to Tampin Hospital.

Post-mortem results showed that the robber, said to be from Tebung in Alor Gajah, Malacca, died from head injuries inflicted by a blunt object.

There were no serious dog bites on his body.

Police have remanded the guard for investigations.

It was reported yesterday that the dog attacked a robber, who was armed with a piece of wood, when he got into a fight with the guard.

The guard, who also suffered head injuries, stopped a passing motorist who took him to Tampin police station where he lodged a report.

When a team of policemen rushed to the scene they found the robber sprawled in front of the shop with injuries all over his body.

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1. It is the nature of the dog to be loyal and protect. Breeded or not, they all deserve a same and fair treatment of love and affection. He knew his friend is in trouble so he just get up and pounce in to help. In other cases, human bystanders would rather just be observers while watching another human bleed to death in beating/snatching (ragut) incidents.
Hence the dog deserved to be called a hero.

2. We must applause the guard for his kindness towards the dog, who in turns guards the life of the guard. As a professional & human being, he has the right to defend himself for doing his duty and fighting for his life.

3. Let us join hands with the other animal lovers who have deep thought on the runaway dog and pray that he is far from harm.

4. Therefore, i would propose someone who is good in writing here (Malay & English) could accumulate our thoughts in here and send it to a Public Opinions column in NST, Star, Berita Harian, Utusan, Top Blogs, etc, so that people will realise the good deed of these 2 souls, strangers to each other who watched each others back.

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May the heavens and powers that be protect the dog from any harm, and may the authorities never find it.

As for the security guard, I am a bit bothered about "Police have remanded the guard for investigations" . Even though post-mortem results show that the robber died from head injuries caused by a blunt object, the security guard was merely defending himself. The robber was similarly armed, too.

Was the security guard supposed to stand by and let the robber hit him to death? And was the dog supposed to stand by and watch his friend being beaten to death?

Yeah, I guess so, in this convoluted world that we live in. *sigh*

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you know, the dog itself may be lying somewhere injured also. poor dog.

i wonder why the police is looking for the dog - to remand the dog for investigation and to record a statement from the dog...???!!

i do hope that some good samaritan or friends of the guard has taken in the dog and treat its injuries if it is injured or keep if for the time being.

the police could be more forthcoming in explaning why they are looking for the dog:

1) to charge the dog for defending its friend and master?
2) to record a statement from the dog on the incident?
3) to give proper vet treatment for the dog in case it sustained injuries during the attack
4) to accord mention to the dog for its bravery and loyalty

going by the malaysian public servants records all this while, especially the "mind-boggling", "utter bunkum", "inexplicable irrational decisions/actiosn" that were constantly display and shown to the msian public and the international community, i think it'd be safe to say it's definitely not for (3) and (4)

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a robber dies...GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am very happy........

what is there to pity about robbers..
what about those who got robbed and get injured

at times we have to take the law at our own hands..
wait for police ar...unless you are totally half dead...then police will come

i hope the dog is not found at all...by the enforcer...

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while i agree with most of you in that both guard and dog deserve commendation and celebration, i think we are forgetting the robber.

no one throws his dignity and principles into the air without good reason. was he hungry? did he have children to feed? a mortgage to pay? times are hard and if people are not helping each other, do you think they can look on animals with compassion and mercy?

as long as there are people desperate enough to steal, prostitute their children and themselves in order to survive, animal welfare will be in the pale. as a mother myself, i would (with great reluctance) sacrifice every single animal i own/in may care in order to save just one of my children. if any one you think i am selfish or cruel, so be it. i know who i am. i do the best i can with what i have. i think i've certainly done my part to help and save homeless animals. but have no doubt that my own children come first.

so now, do you think the robber's death is something to celebrate?

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hurmm... like that aa... so dogs will never get wild loh if they taste blood... huhu i thought all animal like that... my cat also.. if they had taste kibbles... they won't eat anything else.. aku bagi ikan singgang pun dah tanak makan dah...

well, alicia also had a good point, well, to me, the robber should be punished for what he has done. although you might want to think on behalf of their family or children, well, if the robber himself doesn't think of consequence of his action, i think he also doesn't care much of his family at all. yes, if it comes to stage when decision should be made to choose between human or animal, we should choose to protect our own kind. hehe.. but human can think laah.. .animal cannot... in this kind of situation here, i'm not partying on the death of the robber, but i do feel relief if this species vanish from our world. {shy}{shy}

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Cool, Petfinder friends ... do not let emotions cloud your mind ...

Chemonk, you pointed out a very important point - there is no reason to rob another whatever the reason ... the robber could have killed his victim and he himself still be alive instead ... then what about the innocent victim's family? the robber should bear the consequences of his wrong actions, sorry la about the robber's family (yes, Alicia is right ... a death is nothing to celebrate, but if you have suffered at the other end (maybe Vivienlpl has), it is natural for the sufferer to feel some form of vindication, it is only human).

Innocent victims aren't not so lucky all the time, like the victim and the dog ... they might have died at the hands of the robber ... did the robber think of this?

About the possibility of the dog being destroyed ... this is because of the fact that the dog having experienced the killing of a human has made it a potentially dangerous animal. No, I do not think this is fair to a brave and self-sacrificing animal, but that is the transformation feared. And that is the reason why the humans will destroy the dog.

The dog might not have become a potentially dangerous animal but humans will take no chances. I think that is what is normally done, not only here but globally.

I feel for the dog, I feel sad for it and I hate the robber for causing this to happen to a magnificent and loyal animal! It has received a definite death sentence for nothing!

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i'm a dog owner and i must say that i'm offended by your last remark.

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To me, a robber who attacks a security guard is a dangerous person becos most security guards come armed one way or the other ... and if such a robber comes at me, I certainly hope to blow his brain off with my shotgun before he does the same to me.

A more harmless or benign robber might stay with defenceless little old ladies on the street or in the lift.

I definitely will not stop to think about his family in that split second becos I will certainly be thinking of mine and what happens to them if my brains are blown off. I do not think I will think about the robber's family later either becos I will be busy planning for the security of my own family against such lethal people.

I will certainly be thinking of my own family and even my little furkids rather than the robber's family. {wink}{happy}

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huhu... maybe u misunderstand my writings... the "species" there is not reffered to dog species... i refer to the robber species... i hate the robber not dogs... in fact i love to know more about dog behavior... since in my residential area, lots of ppl have dogs.. but they didn't kept their dog well (i mean the dogs is not kept in their compound)... they came to my house and take away my safety shoes... hihihi... nevermind.. just alerting myself and learn so that i didn't accidentally provoke them... i always cari batu kerikil whenever i see dogs in my pathway... maybe i should own rottwiler (don't know how to spell) myself..

sorry if my previous statement offended you ya.. didn't mean to do that.. let's shake hand...{victory}{victory}{good}

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to clarify on the tasting blood thingy...

our cats, dogs and hamsters all eat raw food. that means it is full of blood. however, THEY ARE NOT VICIOUS. Eating/tasting blood does not make you vicious. just like eating a tiger's penis is not going to turn me into a sex-crazed satyr :)

and my cats, dogs, rabbits and guinea pigs all get along and cat play together without eating each other. not something i can guarantee with my human kids.

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i've been robbed before. several times in fact. but i'm glad that in the end, the important things were OK. the family.

And i still wouldn't wish any harm on the robber. i assumed/hope that they stole our car because they were desperate and had neither the means or the education to earn an honest living.

honestly, if you only had the choice of being a rubbish truck driver or robbing/stealing to make a living, you cannot honestly tell me stealing wouldn't be tempting.

and, i hope i haven't offended anyone. i was just trying to highlight the importance of being charitable to our fellow humans too, so as the create opportunities for all and to generate waves of compassion for all living things.

if i was going to wish ill on anyone, it'd be drug dealers and rapists and murderers.

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Oh i see now. Sorry i misunderstood your meaning. I get too hotheaded sometimes. I appreciate that you're trying to learn dogs behavior more. You should tell your neighbors that their dogs are not allowed to wander around outside their compounds unsupervised and unleashed even if they have a dog license. This is irresponsible and also illegal and city council bodies such as dbkl have the authority to catch these unsupervised dogs and bring them to the pound.

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I just wanted to share..

My neighbor was once attacked by another neighbor's dog.

My neighbor, who was in his teen years back then was just cycling about the neighborhood when this small dog (if I'm not mistaken, the dog was similar to a Jack Russel bcs I've seen that little dog before) chased him, jumped on him while he was cycling and viciously bit him on the back and several other places which gave him about 14 stitches or more if I'm not mistaken. So, that little dog had to be put down to sleep. I have no idea until now what could have triggered that little dog to act so violently. {scared}

That particular dog owner also has a Shih Tzu who was very docile and always followed the maid around the park without a leash, and when I go near to pet it, it's always friendly. In fact, she also has a pet cat which that Shih Tzu gets along with too.

I don't believe that my neighbor had done anything to offend that dog either.

Hm thoughts?

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Chemonk, (Chemonk ke yang mentioned this?) bukan sebab the dog tasted blood which makes it dangerous tapi it is the action of having experienced the overpowering of a human that make it dangerous because a trained dog is trained to accept the fact that the human is superior and dominant (a dog is a pack animal) and it must submit to him. That is why Doberman owners, etc understand why it is important to never let the dog push you and you fall down. You must maintain your stance.

However, having said that, dogs can be trained to capture robbers, etc and protect the owners, but under normal circumstances they are never trained to kill a human. Dogs that are specially trained to kill humans are very, very dangerous and must be very tightly controlled. They are both a danger to themselves as well as to others.

Sama la macam kat circus tu, the lion trainer must never, never trip on his feet and fall down. He MUST maintain his balance on his feet otherwise he is dead meat!

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ok furkids.. ana sudah paham la... aku tak takut sgt kalau sekor.. tapi kalau dah 5-6 ekor kat springhill nih... cuak la jugak... as far as i know... dogs are similar to wolves, they hunt in pack.. itupun kalau liar lah... but seriously... since my house is very isolated... sebab jiran2 aku suma dah pindah.. i need to have a dog to secure my house... rottwilier (aku still tatau nak eja nama canine nih) ok kah? adakah rottwilier ni jenis makan tuan???{scared}

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Oh yes, Chemonk, you made a very important observation about pack animal types ... solo masih boleh kira OK ... tapi once in a pack, they behave very differently and can pose quite a threat should the attack mode be suddenly triggered in their brains.

Also, sometimes they may not be in attack mode, but if suddenly something triggers their brain to bring on that mode in one animals, the others will just zoom in for the kill! We have seen in it happen in our animal rescues where some ppl make the mistake of putting young pups with the adults in a van or compound and the poor young pups just get torn to death in the attack which probably resulted from the stressful environment.

The poor little young ones simply didn't stand a chance in the frenzy and the poor mother dog couldn't do anything in the crowd! Simply torn to bits!

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Hi everyone,

Sorry to spoil the fun, guys.

Perhaps its best that Ms. Foo re-write the article properly again based on the facts of the case. If anyone were to study the reports, it can be seen that its terribly flawed from start till end.

Surely the article had ticked off many Animal Lovers and many to even jump the gun! Its best for all just to focus on the facts as it is. Nothing more nothing less.

It seemed that the report is malicious towards German Shepherd as a breed, to say the least. Everyone knows that an attack from a German Shepherd can be devastating but when its reported that there are no serious dog bites on the victim's body, that got to stand for something!

What about when the police found the injured robber sprawled on the floor alive, I am sure the bugger must have said something! He couldn't have slept all the way to the hospital in pain etc!

I strongly suggest the police re-examine the motive of this case. Nothing reported had many any sense to me at the moment.

Irregardless of what is being reported, the proper thing the guard should have done when he left the crime scene was to call the dog to his side, if there was a dog in the first place. Or whatever its called after being reported precisely from a 3-year old German Shepherd to stray or what have you!

Jeff