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deanil 12-18-2009 01:41 PM

Imported Persian
 
Ader saper2 nak beli imported persian Show quality from Russia?
Let me know.. i can get a discounted price from the breeder..

nurkasih 12-18-2009 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72706)
Ader saper2 nak beli imported persian Show quality from Russia?
Let me know.. i can get a discounted price from the breeder..

Macamana processnyer.. agak2 berapa fulusnyer..

naq1989 12-18-2009 03:05 PM

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ala kak kasih,tak payah la beli dari luar negara,beli je dari breeder malaysia...kalau beli kucing rusia,tak dengar cakap sbb die tak paham bahasa melayu...

nurkasih 12-18-2009 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by naq1989 (Post 72720)
ala kak kasih,tak payah la beli dari luar negara,beli je dari breeder malaysia...kalau beli kucing rusia,tak dengar cakap sbb die tak paham bahasa melayu...

Sayer tak kater saya nak beli kan Naq...{wink}

Kalau tak silap sayer..itu adalah pertanyaan.. jadi jangan tersilap interprete nyer, my dear...

shark 12-18-2009 03:29 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
daripada Cattery mana?

deanil 12-18-2009 04:03 PM

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sorry lambat reply... jumaat td.. price dia dlm USD1350 inclusive of shipping cost .. persian dr rusia ni quality dia lain sikit.. bulu dia tersangat lembut mcm kapas.. ni salah satu persian dr russia yg i nak beli..

deanil 12-18-2009 04:07 PM

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biasanyer harga imported persian q show... USD1500 x termasuk shipping cost.. tp this time murah sikit because i akan beli satu.. so i akan dpt discount kalau i beli dua... before this pun dah beli 3 ekor..

nurkasih 12-18-2009 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72733)
biasanyer harga imported persian q show... USD1500 x termasuk shipping cost.. tp this time murah sikit because i akan beli satu.. so i akan dpt discount kalau i beli dua... before this pun dah beli 3 ekor..

Deanil..kitten ehh... nampak busat semacam.. tengok gambar tingat iklan walls mini..kucing yang terikat kat dalam benang kait tueh..{shy}

shark 12-18-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
dr cattery mana ekh?

deanil 12-18-2009 04:34 PM

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dah 11 month... still considered kitten.. persian dr russia ni lambat matang.. i bukan agent yer.. i tanya saper nak join beli coz nak dpt harga lebih murah.. u jer.. kucing ni champion line.. lagi satu.. kucing import ni memang pandai socialize.. baka breed yg baik

Coony 12-18-2009 05:07 PM

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Shark had ask for the 2nd time & I will ask for the 3rd time.

Which cattery are they from?? How do you evaluate them as show? Since you had bought a few of them before, can I ask how well they did in the show.

deanil 12-18-2009 05:41 PM

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sorry.. i don't provide that info unless if u are a serious buyer.. i dun buy cat to go for cat show.. general guidelines for q show, high nose n same line with the eyes, round face with big eyes .. long and fluffy hair .. short leg, tail does not touch it's neck.. a lot more to consider.. refer to CFA guidelines .. this cat is from a well known cattery ..

the 2 cats are with me now.. persian and exotic.. the other one is with my untie.. i'm not desperate to get ppl to buy .. just to open the opportunity.. lg pun i nak kena confirm by 28.. kalau x der sape2.. so.. i beli sekor jer lah for me.. :) harap2 leh nego price lg

izyandanial 12-18-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72745)
sorry.. i don't provide that info unless if u are a serious buyer.. i dun buy cat to go for cat show.. general guidelines for q show, high nose n same line with the eyes, round face with big eyes .. long and fluffy hair .. short leg, tail does not touch it's neck.. a lot more to consider.. refer to CFA guidelines .. this cat is from a well known cattery ..

the 2 cats are with me now.. persian and exotic.. the other one is with my untie.. i'm not desperate to get ppl to buy .. just to open the opportunity.. lg pun i nak kena confirm by 28.. kalau x der sape2.. so.. i beli sekor jer lah for me.. :) harap2 leh nego price lg

from what i've know breeder dont sell show quality to owners that is not showing the cats especially its from well known cattery.and why would you keep the show cats without showing,are they are neutered or spayed?{victory}

deanil 12-18-2009 06:09 PM

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i dun cage them just to get them to go for cat show... my reason to buy cat is only fto be my companion.. not spayed or neutered.. tp tgk lah may be next year i masuk kut.. heheh

i rase kalau u ckp a well known cattery x jual sq cat.. itu ade lah salah sama sekali.. sgt2 salah.. maner u dpt info tu.. in fact the cattery pernah offer i untuk jual persian yg baru menang WC at RM11k. ussually a well known cattery akan jual either sq cats or pet quality.. tp ade jugak cattery yg simpan sq cuma jual pq jer.. mungkin cattery baru..

Tp kalau breeder kat malaysia memang x akan jual sq pd kita..

Coony 12-18-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
Sorry! you have to be serious first before you expect other to be serious. If you are honest about the quality of the cat & the reputation of the breeder, then why can't you be sincere & transparent of who the breeder is. We all know what the guideline is but how do we know your cat is within the guideline when you don't even show your cat to be judge by a professional judge to justify you claim. When you said well known cattery, we need to know if they are well known for their ethical or their unethical practice, in this case only you know what they are well known for.
Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72745)
sorry.. i don't provide that info unless if u are a serious buyer.. i dun buy cat to go for cat show.. general guidelines for q show, high nose n same line with the eyes, round face with big eyes .. long and fluffy hair .. short leg, tail does not touch it's neck.. a lot more to consider.. refer to CFA guidelines .. this cat is from a well known cattery ..

the 2 cats are with me now.. persian and exotic.. the other one is with my untie.. i'm not desperate to get ppl to buy .. just to open the opportunity.. lg pun i nak kena confirm by 28.. kalau x der sape2.. so.. i beli sekor jer lah for me.. :) harap2 leh nego price lg


izyandanial 12-18-2009 06:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72748)
i dun cage them just to get them to go for cat show... my reason to buy cat is only fto be my companion.. not spayed or neutered.. tp tgk lah may be next year i masuk kut.. heheh


i rase kalau u ckp a well known cattery x jual sq cat.. itu ade lah salah sama sekali.. sgt2 salah.. maner u dpt info tu.. in fact the cattery pernah offer i untuk jual persian yg baru menang WC at RM11k. ussually a well known cattery akan jual either sq cats or pet quality.. tp ade jugak cattery yg simpan sq cuma jual pq jer.. mungkin cattery baru..
Tp kalau breeder kat malaysia memang x akan jual sq pd kita..


]opppsss....{oh} my cats are all show cats and i never cage them.and they are my companion.we treat them equally as for human kids. i know they are people who does that,but if you said your cats is not neutered or spayed how you control them if they want to mate...or you will not control that or now your cats are still small?
yup true...but even malaysia or outside malaysia there a lot kind of diff breeder ethics.....if you said the breeder is well known,why not you share with us which cattery.i'm sure the cattery dont mind if you tell everybody where is your persian came from.{victory}{grin}

deanil 12-18-2009 07:00 PM

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coony.. izyandy... i just open to the floor for those who have interest to buy persian frm russia.. just give me a call who is interested to take this opportunity and we can meet up.. and discuss further.. talking about sincerity.. i prefer to discuss over coffee rather than in the forum.. jgn lah cepat melompat yer.. peace

June 12-18-2009 10:32 PM

Imported Persian
 
There's nothing we should melompat over this issue. The rule is very simple. Give the name of the cattery if they are well known as you claim & the forumers will decide weather or not to buy from them. My opinion,if things sound too good to be true,I will stay away. If a person cannot even give simple details like the name of the cattery,I'll stay away.

Conman/girl are everywhere even in the cyberworld.They are getting more sophisticated,so guys be extra careful. Do your homework before deciding to part with your hard earning money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 72751)
coony.. izyandy... i just open to the floor for those who have interest to buy persian frm russia.. just give me a call who is interested to take this opportunity and we can meet up.. and discuss further.. talking about sincerity.. i prefer to discuss over coffee rather than in the forum.. jgn lah cepat melompat yer.. peace


Zarul 12-18-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
emmmmm

blackie007 12-19-2009 01:23 AM

Re: Imported Persian
 
Deanil, what izyandanial said is true. A reputable, ethical cattery will not sell you a show quality cat for you to hide in your home. You have to sign a contract with the cattery to show the show cat (that is why it's called a show cat).

Anyway, I am puzzled as to why you are reluctant to share the name of the cattery. I am also concerned at the way you avoided addressing Izyandanial's questions, which, by the way, aren't about the name of the mysterious cattery.

Until you tell us the name of the cattery, I would advise everyone here to be cautious about parting with their hard-earned money.......

xsynie 12-19-2009 04:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shark (Post 72736)
dr cattery mana ekh?

Deanil,

let me hel you to answer the question, pls view list attach



Aelita Himalayan Cattery - Aelita is CFA registered small cattery of himalayan show quality cats. Blood lines: Oakheaven, Brigantina.

Afrodita cattery - Famous catteries blood lines, show breed quality

AGATHICAT tabby exotics - Small in-home, cageless cattery specialised in tabby exotics. CFA and WACC registered. We export since 2001. Bloodlines: Pati
AISALIN cattery

Amantis Sphynx Cattery - Small Sphynx cattery.


Bastet-Max - Moscow
BELOGORIE cattery - Himalayans cattery BELOGORIE located in Russia, registered with CFA.
Blendingstar's persians and exotics - We work with famous outstanding blood-lines and produce healthy and sweet-faced babies

Cat`Studio exotics & persians - cattery persians and exotics from Russia. Colours: bicolour ,silver, tabby ,solid

Cattery "Charoit" - We are a small home cattery of Siberian and Maine coon cats. We are located in Russia.
Cattery "Jouet - Couguar"

Cattery British Cats Plush Bear - British shorthair champion blodlines,exsellent dispositions,type,very pretty and nice.
Cattery MAG`DYNASTY - Exotic & Persians bi-color, cameo tabby , silver tabby (Exotic Shorthair, Persian)
Cattery of bengals Glam Shine - Silver, snow and brown, spotted and rosettes bengals with sweet temperament.
Cattery of Siberian cats "Knyaz Gvidon" - "Knyaz Gvidon" (WCF, FIFE) � one of the first cattery of Siberian breed in Saint-Petersburg.
Cattery of Siberian cats "NEVAda" - Cattery deals with breeding of traditional Siberian cats and colorpoints (Neva Masquerade)

Dauria - Siberian breed cats from Russia.
Demanch CFA exo - For sale kittens bi-color,calico,solid. Genetic test PKD negativ.

Dikaya Krassa Cattery - Breeder of Siberian Cats and Neva Masquerade

Ellada blue*RU - Russian blue cats and kittens

Gold Line - Bloodline: Oakheaven, Brigantina, Kikicat, Becton
Grand Beauty - Small Sphynx cattery located in Russia, different colors, delivery anywhere in the world !!!

Little Lynx - Site made by "Little Lynx" cattery will tell you about famous Russian breed.

Milky Way Sphynx Cattery - Welcome to Milky Way Sphynx Cattery ! We are a small cattery, located in Russia.

MonBonAmi - Scottish fold Scottish straight taby and solid
Moon Pet Sphynx Cattery - CFA and FIFe registered cattery. Beautiful Sphynx Babies.(Russia)

NevasLegend - The small cattery of Siberian cats located in Moscow. TICA registered.

Olimpian*RU - We are a small Maine-Coon cattery from St-Petersburg, Russia!

Pride Star - We are a family operated cageless Persian cattery located in Moscow, RUSSIA.

RusLana Exotics - A small CFA & FIFe registered cattery specializing in bicolor exotic shorthair & persian cats.

Russian Maine Coon cattery Coon Place, MCO kittens - Coon Place Maine Coon cattery is situated in small Russian city Pskov, photos, MCO kittens for sail

SERANO - maine coon cattery! - We have a wonderful maine coons in Moscow! Welcom!

Showbrits - British Longhair and Shorthair show-type cats and kittens in blue and lilac as well as in rare point
Shtourman Sphynx Cattery - Small Sphynx cattery located in Russia

siamese.ru - Cattery Vodoley - siamese and oriental cats (Russia)


Sunna cattery - Small russian blues and singapuras cats cattery in Russia

Swaldiphary- Russian Blue Cats - Swaldiphary -cattery of russain blue cats from Russia. All about russian blue cats

Tidgi cattery cornish rex - Tidgi cattery cornish rex of Russia

Turkish angora's cattery "Catlar" - Moscow
Space
VandVis Sphynx cattery - HCM & PKD tested Sphynx cattery located in Russia

Velikii Ohotnik Neva Masquerade Cattery - Breeders of Neva Masquerade (Siberian colorpoint) cats in Moscow, Russia. Our cats and our kittens, look how they grow!

Hope it may ring a bell to you

izyandanial 12-19-2009 11:30 AM

Re: Imported Persian
 
well done xsynie{victory}{good}{good}

Zarul 12-19-2009 11:39 AM

Re: Imported Persian
 
tanya sikit. dari apa yg saya baca di website2 cattery, kebanyakkannya takkan jual kucing yg tak di kasi kecuali kepada breeder yg berdaftar sahaja. betul ke?

shark 12-19-2009 11:43 AM

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hye... saya just nak tanya dr cattery mana.. jgn lak jd mcm kwn2 saya.. nak beli persian last2 dpt exotic long hair... ramai jg kwn i yg dah kena... maybe rusia exotic long hair n persian tak beza dlm cert... tp cfa register sgt2 berbeza..
dan amat salah jika mengatakan breeder kat malaysia tak jual quality show... its depands on our budget..

izyandanial 12-19-2009 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarul (Post 72788)
tanya sikit. dari apa yg saya baca di website2 cattery, kebanyakkannya takkan jual kucing yg tak di kasi kecuali kepada breeder yg berdaftar sahaja. betul ke?

of course zarul but... depend.tak semua breeder is ethical. When you said well known cattery, we need to know if they are well known for their ethical or their unethical practice, in this case only you know what they are well known for.

kalau its from top breeder memang no chance at all....unless diorang ni top on unethical practice la.....{ohmygod}

izyandanial 12-19-2009 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shark (Post 72789)
hye... saya just nak tanya dr cattery mana.. jgn lak jd mcm kwn2 saya.. nak beli persian last2 dpt exotic long hair... ramai jg kwn i yg dah kena... maybe rusia exotic long hair n persian tak beza dlm cert... tp cfa register sgt2 berbeza..

and plus...11 month still kitten....wow tak penah la lagi dalam sejarah saya masuk cfa show ada kitten class 11 bulan......buat lawak la....{grin}

shark 12-19-2009 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by izyandanial (Post 72791)
of course zarul but... depend.tak semua breeder is ethical. When you said well known cattery, we need to know if they are well known for their ethical or their unethical practice, in this case only you know what they are well known for.

kalau its from top breeder memang no chance at all....unless diorang ni top on unethical practice la.....{ohmygod}



btl tu izyandanial.. tak semua breeder mcm tu.. walaupun i beli local persian tp ada jg knowledge ttg hal tue.. yalah hidup ni kena byk bertanya.. tak tanya sesat jln ooo......

Apies 12-25-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Imported Persian
 
salam.

nk tnye kat mne sye blh bli kcg yg jns norwegian.. mnt sgt tp x tau nk bli kat ner

ssh btl nk crik.. x tau kat mne jual..

btl ke kcg nie kne brada dlm iklim sjuk or atau dlm erti kate laen kne psg air cond je kat umh..

as we know baka norwegian nie mmg da adapt ngn cuace sjuk... so any advce?

DJSNAZ83 12-25-2009 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apies (Post 73706)
salam.

nk tnye kat mne sye blh bli kcg yg jns norwegian.. mnt sgt tp x tau nk bli kat ner

ssh btl nk crik.. x tau kat mne jual..

btl ke kcg nie kne brada dlm iklim sjuk or atau dlm erti kate laen kne psg air cond je kat umh..

as we know baka norwegian nie mmg da adapt ngn cuace sjuk... so any advce?

a bit late to u....my fren baru je last week offer kt i norwegian kitten with FiFe cert dengan harga rm1.2k sahaja...tp i tolak sbb i'm a maine coon fan..hari tu dh ade org lain beli....

Apies 12-25-2009 08:39 PM

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aduh ye ker... waa... sye nie ske sgt ngn norwegian nie...favort...

btw nk tnye cikt.. hrga bg norwegian ngn persian lebih kurag sme x?

ke norwegian lagi mahal...?

rock 01-13-2010 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSNAZ83 (Post 73726)
a bit late to u....my fren baru je last week offer kt i norwegian kitten with FiFe cert dengan harga rm1.2k sahaja...tp i tolak sbb i'm a maine coon fan..hari tu dh ade org lain beli....

murahnya norwegian 1.2k je?{ohmygod}
rock pn suka norwegian..{grin} kiki tu,norwegian celops je...{shy}{shy}{shy}

Apies 01-14-2010 05:54 PM

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btul2... mrh la 1.2K with cert... masyuk kalu dpt..hiihihih

han73 03-15-2010 12:45 PM

Re: Imported Persian
 
Hi there

I like to know more about this imported persian as i know that it can be very expensive? Normally what are the price range for the imported persian? Hope to hear from you soon.

Adila 03-16-2010 02:10 PM

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I guess its simple, if any of us is seriously interested or curious for the truth, just arrange a meet up with deanil. Then issues can be solved. Exchanging words here won't solve nothing. Perhaps we are so used to being prejudice (which is acceptable after physical observation) and eager to make quick proff-less assumption and it might stopping us to explore. Then again its all up to the forumers here to decide. I personally am curious about this and to personally check with deanil won't harm anyone. But I couldn't care less cos I am seriously not interested to buy. P/S to conman/woman, forumers here are smart, so back off. Cheers!

June 03-16-2010 02:23 PM

Imported Persian
 
Adila,u won't believe how gulibble some people until u read the whole listing. They read the forum,the warning and reminder and yet they were duped and conned by this greedy people.Some people choose to be ignorant until they fall into the trap. {good}{good} As the Malay proverb goes" menyesal kemudian tak berguna".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adila (Post 77905)
I guess its simple, if any of us is seriously interested or curious for the truth, just arrange a meet up with deanil. Then issues can be solved. Exchanging words here won't solve nothing. Perhaps we are so used to being prejudice (which is acceptable after physical observation) and eager to make quick proff-less assumption and it might stopping us to explore. Then again its all up to the forumers here to decide. I personally am curious about this and to personally check with deanil won't harm anyone. But I couldn't care less cos I am seriously not interested to buy. P/S to conman/woman, forumers here are smart, so back off. Cheers!


Maneki Neko 03-17-2010 09:15 AM

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Right, June! I continue to read about Malaysians who fall for the pedigreed pets scam. We've occasionally seen these scammers list pets "for adoption" here on Petfinder. The picture is obviously one that was taken from the internet -- adorable fluffy little Shih Tzu or Persian, usually posing with an equally adorable blond-haired child. The adoption fee is always RM450, which is a "too-good-to-be-true" price for a pedigreed pet.

If you call the number, you find that Fluffy isn't actually in Malaysia, and you'll need to wire some money into an account as a deposit, and then some more for transportation. Then Fluffy needs vaccinations -- you must wire in more money. Oops! Fluffy will have to pay customs duty -- keep wiring that money! The Star had one article about a Malaysian couple who had wired over RM5000 into a bank account in Cameroon before they realised that they might never see "Fluffy" and notified the police, who could do nothing to help them at that point. **sigh** {sick}



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Originally Posted by June (Post 77906)
Adila,u won't believe how gulibble some people until u read the whole listing. They read the forum,the warning and reminder and yet they were duped and conned by this greedy people.Some people choose to be ignorant until they fall into the trap. {good}{good} As the Malay proverb goes" menyesal kemudian tak berguna".


han73 03-18-2010 10:15 AM

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As we all know our community are pretty small if u like to compare with other country. They can have cat/dog shows every weekend and every month. Some of us here been long enough in this stuff who knows lots of bad and good things. Why can't we stop for a while and think back are we going forward instead of backward. By conning others rather than genuine helping ppl who really need help especially for a new comers(breeder).I'm pretty sure some of us knows breeders from overseas who offers good deal since they knows one and other. Help us so we can help you too with proper ethical. {happy}

deanil 03-18-2010 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 77906)
Adila,u won't believe how gulibble some people until u read the whole listing. They read the forum,the warning and reminder and yet they were duped and conned by this greedy people.Some people choose to be ignorant until they fall into the trap. {good}{good} As the Malay proverb goes" menyesal kemudian tak berguna".


Adila, u are right.. nobody call me to clarify.. Accept Asraf who are now the owner of the persian. he bought the persian with my help. The persian is from champion line. I don't make any profit at all because all money transaction was between him and the breeder. After that, i had guided him to do airport clearance and to do permit for the cat and i even took annual leave to help him. I accompanied him to Mascargo to do clearance. But you people are too carried away with no reason. Accusing without clarifying.. I thought.. we are here to help each other.. but i can see ppl here just like to condemn other ppl as they believe that they are good than other.. too bad...
June.. are u selling cat? Just one question.. please answer..

nurkasih 03-18-2010 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deanil (Post 78067)
Adila, u are right.. nobody call me to clarify.. Accept Asraf who are now the owner of the persian. he bought the persian with my help. The persian is from champion line. I don't make any profit at all because all money transaction was between him and the breeder. After that, i had guided him to do airport clearance and to do permit for the cat and i even took annual leave to help him. I accompanied him to Mascargo to do clearance. But you people are too carried away with no reason. Accusing without clarifying.. I thought.. we are here to help each other.. but i can see ppl here just like to condemn other ppl as they believe that they are good than other.. too bad...
June.. are u selling cat? Just one question.. please answer..

I believe this thread should be locked as it invites nothing but encouraging people to despise others out of own assumptions. I also do presume that this issue has ceased and that's the end of everything. Mod power is severely in need to avert indecorous opinion. Thank you.

Zarul 03-18-2010 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nurkasih (Post 78068)
I believe this thread should be locked as it invites nothing but encouraging people to despise others out of own assumptions. I also do presume that this issue has ceased and that's the end of everything. Mod power is severely in need to avert indecorous opinion. Thank you.

nurkasih, perkara ini tidak akan jadi konfius sekiranya dari awal lagi deanil memberitahu nama cattery tersebut. bukan apa kebanyakkan dari kita takut dia tertipu itu saja.
ada beberapa perkara yg menjadi pertikaian....deanil mengatakan bahawa cattery tersebut is a well known cattery.....tapi cattery tersebut melakukan perkara yg bertentangan dgn etika2 cattery yg bagus2.

pertama cattery tersebut menjual sq kitten kepada pembeli yg tidak berminat untuk memasukkan kitten tersebut ke dalam show.kedua menjual kitten yg tidak di kasi kepada pembeli yg tidak memiliki cattery ....selalunya breeder yg well known ni dia tak senang2 jual kitten tak kasi sebab dia tidak mahu kitten2 dia menjadi kitten mills.....

itu yg menjadi tanda tanya kebanyakan forumer....

dan kenapa perlu berahsia mengenai cattery tersebut. Alangkah bagus sekiranya cattery yg dikatakan well known tersebut dikongsikan bersama di dalam forum ini.....bukankah itu salah satu tujuannya forum ini supaya kita dapat mengetahui dan mempelajari mengenai kucing dari cattery2 yg bagus2 ini.....


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