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kmleong 11-01-2010 03:26 AM

Cats in Apartments
 
I live in an apartment with three lovely cats. After moving out from my old house I thought I have freedom and get to own animals cause I love animals I had hamsters and guinea pigs last time before I move on to have cats when my hamsters and guinea pigs were dead due to all age. After moving here for the first two years I had a very peaceful time. Then came this new neighbour a few blocks away just moved in. There first year was no problem then the problem starts. He keeps complaining about the smell and everyone in his family fall sick. He came to my house in the middle of the night and knock on my window and I answered he started to scold me. After a few months he went to the malays (now already shifted out) and complain to them also with the same excuse that his family fall sick. Then he brought this up to the management every once and then and I get a call from the management asking me to do something about the smell. So I just ignore it and just do my cleaning even installed air wick auto dispenser to get rid of the smell.
Just recently the neighbour even get the comitee involve. I was called to the office to discuss. Now I was ordered that my cats be taken to someplace else or throw them away or they would call the MPPP. I tried to argue with them but the comitte said in the S&P is already stated that no cats and dogs are allowed but there are people in that building rearing cats even dogs. They said a police report is also made. Just for argue sake, do they have the rights to do that? To me is really unfair cause I got nowhere else to go. I don't have any other place to put them. If there is I wouldn't be staying here. Because i love my cats alot I had to find another place to stay while I going to sell off this apartment.

Felix The Cat 11-01-2010 01:35 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90529)
I live in an apartment with three lovely cats. After moving out from my old house I thought I have freedom and get to own animals cause I love animals I had hamsters and guinea pigs last time before I move on to have cats when my hamsters and guinea pigs were dead due to all age. After moving here for the first two years I had a very peaceful time. Then came this new neighbour a few blocks away just moved in. There first year was no problem then the problem starts. He keeps complaining about the smell and everyone in his family fall sick. He came to my house in the middle of the night and knock on my window and I answered he started to scold me. After a few months he went to the malays (now already shifted out) and complain to them also with the same excuse that his family fall sick. Then he brought this up to the management every once and then and I get a call from the management asking me to do something about the smell. So I just ignore it and just do my cleaning even installed air wick auto dispenser to get rid of the smell.
Just recently the neighbour even get the comitee involve. I was called to the office to discuss. Now I was ordered that my cats be taken to someplace else or throw them away or they would call the MPPP. I tried to argue with them but the comitte said in the S&P is already stated that no cats and dogs are allowed but there are people in that building rearing cats even dogs. They said a police report is also made. Just for argue sake, do they have the rights to do that? To me is really unfair cause I got nowhere else to go. I don't have any other place to put them. If there is I wouldn't be staying here. Because i love my cats alot I had to find another place to stay while I going to sell off this apartment.

Sorry to hear about your disgruntled neighbour.
I am sorry to say that he should move out and not you! {nah}
I suggest that you go one step ahead of them which is go directly and see MPPP before they do.
Tell them what is happening and ask for an appeal in order for you to be able to keep your beloved pets.
I did enquire once from MPAJ with regards to a friends plight which is the same as yours and was told that they will consider if you officially write in to them asking for an appeal to keep your pets.
No harm in trying right? {oh}
Good Luck!

kmleong 11-01-2010 06:35 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix The Cat (Post 90535)
Sorry to hear about your disgruntled neighbour.
I am sorry to say that he should move out and not you! {nah}
I suggest that you go one step ahead of them which is go directly and see MPPP before they do.
Tell them what is happening and ask for an appeal in order for you to be able to keep your beloved pets.
I did enquire once from MPAJ with regards to a friends plight which is the same as yours and was told that they will consider if you officially write in to them asking for an appeal to keep your pets.
No harm in trying right? {oh}
Good Luck!

Even in the S&P stated no dogs and cats allowed we still can appeal to MPPP? That day we had a discussion with the comitte and they told me upstairs the next floor an indian family had 8 cats and they are all taken away by MPPP though I'm not sure is that true or they are just lying. I also did ask them other people are also have cats even dogs and birds they said as long nobody complains they can't do anything but once someone makes a complain they have to evict their pet.

As of today I manage to get a fosterer thru this forum. Now they are in good hands. I am really grateful to her for willing to help me out in such a short notice.

Felix The Cat 11-01-2010 07:51 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90547)
Even in the S&P stated no dogs and cats allowed we still can appeal to MPPP? That day we had a discussion with the comitte and they told me upstairs the next floor an indian family had 8 cats and they are all taken away by MPPP though I'm not sure is that true or they are just lying. I also did ask them other people are also have cats even dogs and birds they said as long nobody complains they can't do anything but once someone makes a complain they have to evict their pet.

As of today I manage to get a fosterer thru this forum. Now they are in good hands. I am really grateful to her for willing to help me out in such a short notice.

I believe you can but there is a limit as to how many cats/dogs you can keep.
For example if the Indian family had 8 cats then its too much.
But in your case 3 is ok.
Why dont you just give MPPP a call first and discuss and seek advice from them.
I was told by MPAJ (the lady was very helpful) that you can appeal and allowed to keep pets as long as your cats does not roam outside your apartment compound and does not give any trouble outside e.g. disturbing neighbours rubbish, making noise at night then I see its not a problem.
You just have to make sure that your house is clean if the MPPP decides they want to pay a visit to your house.
Also..... they cannot barge into your house without a warrant.
Remember that.
Dont be itimidated by them.
Remember its your house and the cats are inside your house.
Legally its your compound and no one has the right to enter your house.

kmleong 11-01-2010 10:15 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix The Cat (Post 90548)
I believe you can but there is a limit as to how many cats/dogs you can keep.
For example if the Indian family had 8 cats then its too much.
But in your case 3 is ok.
Why dont you just give MPPP a call first and discuss and seek advice from them.
I was told by MPAJ (the lady was very helpful) that you can appeal and allowed to keep pets as long as your cats does not roam outside your apartment compound and does not give any trouble outside e.g. disturbing neighbours rubbish, making noise at night then I see its not a problem.
You just have to make sure that your house is clean if the MPPP decides they want to pay a visit to your house.
Also..... they cannot barge into your house without a warrant.
Remember that.
Dont be itimidated by them.
Remember its your house and the cats are inside your house.
Legally its your compound and no one has the right to enter your house.

But this neighbour keeps complaining bout the smell said everytime he opens the door he can smell and always giving excuse his son is sick, allergic. I do scoop up every day once, mop the floor every week. i don't open the windows cause they will run out. Once my siamese got lost for 5 days lucky my neighbour found her. (not the same complaining neighbour but a malay family). Even two of my cats fell off from the 2nd floor when my mom came to clean the house and said the windows should be left open to let the fresh air in. The apartment here is very badly handled by the management. Even drug addicts live here. Once I had my grill door pried open but the wooden door was left untouched. Even my car got break in and my bank card was stolen.

Felix The Cat 11-02-2010 02:08 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90549)
But this neighbour keeps complaining bout the smell said everytime he opens the door he can smell and always giving excuse his son is sick, allergic. I do scoop up every day once, mop the floor every week. i don't open the windows cause they will run out. Once my siamese got lost for 5 days lucky my neighbour found her. (not the same complaining neighbour but a malay family). Even two of my cats fell off from the 2nd floor when my mom came to clean the house and said the windows should be left open to let the fresh air in. The apartment here is very badly handled by the management. Even drug addicts live here. Once I had my grill door pried open but the wooden door was left untouched. Even my car got break in and my bank card was stolen.

I think you should cat proof your apartment.
Put wire mesh on your windows and door grill so that your cats wont accidentally go out.
For your information, I have 14 cats and I mop my cat room twice a day(once morning and once in the evening) and clean their litter box twice a day (morning and evening) too. Cleanliness is my strict priority as I have two children at home.
People have come to my house on several occassions and I am happy to say that they always comment that it does not smell although I have 14 cats {happy} although sometimes there is a smell especially after someone does a fresh poop so that we cannot avoid.
What I do is my own 'Febreeze'.
I buy a spray bottle and put softlan and water (Downy Brand - Aromatic) into it and then spray all over my house with it. On the curtains, cushions, all cloth material and I must say that it really work.
No smell at all {good}
I am also using a wood base litter called flushable woody and it does not smell 90%! {good} compared to using litter clay. Wish I found out about this earlier and its so much more easier to clean. Its low in tracking too.
Having pets we must ensure the cleanliness of our surroundings. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you are not clean but we must strive harder in order to stop people from complaining.
If there is a window next to your neighbour who is complaining, board it up so that he can't say the smell is coming out although I am sure that he will still try to find ways..... to find fault with you.
For me having 3 cats is nothing compared to others who has multiple cats in their houses and apartments.

Maneki Neko 11-02-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Hi, Kmleong,

I really agree with Felix the Cat's suggestion about the wood pellet cat litter! {good}

I just switched to it after using silica for some time. The pine is the best litter I've ever used in terms of odour control. It's easy to find, not terribly expensive, organic, flushable, and she's right -- there's almost NO tracking. (And no, I do not work as a salesman for a pine cat litter company. {shy})

I suspect Felix is also right when she says your neighbour is just being disagreeable at this point. Possibly nothing will make him happy. If you can speak to the local council, though, and convince them that your apartment is clean and the cats are not causing any trouble, that may well end the issue.

Another PF member, June, went through a similar trauma some time ago, and she finally succeeded in convincing DBKL that her cats were not causing any disturbance, despite her nasty neighbours' complaints. It was a long thread, but you can read about her experience here: http://forums.petfinder.my/showthrea...DBKL+apartment

Meanwhile, I'm glad you've got someone to foster your cats until you can solve the problem on a permanent basis. Wishing you all the best of luck! {good}


Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix The Cat (Post 90566)
I am also using a wood base litter called flushable woody and it does not smell 90%! {good} compared to using litter clay. Wish I found out about this earlier and its so much more easier to clean. Its low in tracking too.


kmleong 11-02-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Hmmm, I never come across the wood type. You mean you can just flush it in the toilet? How much does it cost? Penang is very hard to find a shop that sells everything, I mean like all kinds of stuff. I tried the aromatic one before but the aromatic will dissapiar after a week and so costly cause I'm currently jobless so my budget couldn't afford it so I switch back to hte normal litter which cost me $16 for 10L one. Even before I started having cats I had hamsters but couldn't find any good cage, cause I was looking for big once so they have space to run around. All the shops I went sells very small cages.

As for the neighbour he lives in the corner unit while mine is somewhere in the middle. Each floor have 10 units with 5 units in 1 row while the other 5 units faces each other. Is like a straight corridor with 5 units on the left and 5 on the right so if I walk out of the house I can reach my neighbour on the opposite side with just two steps. From my theory I think why he can smell the smell cause of the narrow corridor walking path and there it's not really open air so the smell can't actually escape. I will post a picture of the actual view of my unit. My fosterer I went to visit her apartment is so much different than the one I'm staying. Once you step out of the house is like open air, no walls or neighbours facing each other.

Even if I fence up the grill door and windows and leave the windows open, will the smell be more stronger? And he keeps complaining his son fall sick so can smell actually make ppl sick? Or is he talking about allergic? From what I know ppl only get allergic to cats fur and not smell so if I were to let my windows open wouldn't that make it even worst as the fur will fly out. i even told the comitee just outside my unit airwell (all units have airwell) there is a pile of feaces probably from other stray cats cause there are lots of strays roaming around but they just wouldn't listen. Comitee said once complain is made you have to evict them.

Anyway, maybe is also good to move out cause the place here is poorly maintain. Even on the airwell people throwing rubbish down from the upper floor and even outside (my 2nd room) so if you look out of the window the rubbish is just next to you. (will post picture of it too). If I were to bring this to MPPP and let's say they allow me to keep them, then my neighbour might not be happy and will find more ways to cause trouble. Also all both lifts are placed at one corner which is next to this trouble neighbour. Everytime I take the lift I have to pass his unit and I always feel like not easy when passing thru. Once that was long time ago he came to my unit in the middle of the night pass midnight he starts knocking on my window. I open to answer and he started quarrelling with me.

kmleong 11-02-2010 05:10 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix The Cat (Post 90566)
I think you should cat proof your apartment.
Put wire mesh on your windows and door grill so that your cats wont accidentally go out.
For your information, I have 14 cats and I mop my cat room twice a day(once morning and once in the evening) and clean their litter box twice a day (morning and evening) too. Cleanliness is my strict priority as I have two children at home.
People have come to my house on several occassions and I am happy to say that they always comment that it does not smell although I have 14 cats {happy} although sometimes there is a smell especially after someone does a fresh poop so that we cannot avoid.
What I do is my own 'Febreeze'.
I buy a spray bottle and put softlan and water (Downy Brand - Aromatic) into it and then spray all over my house with it. On the curtains, cushions, all cloth material and I must say that it really work.
No smell at all {good}
I am also using a wood base litter called flushable woody and it does not smell 90%! {good} compared to using litter clay. Wish I found out about this earlier and its so much more easier to clean. Its low in tracking too.
Having pets we must ensure the cleanliness of our surroundings. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying you are not clean but we must strive harder in order to stop people from complaining.
If there is a window next to your neighbour who is complaining, board it up so that he can't say the smell is coming out although I am sure that he will still try to find ways..... to find fault with you.
For me having 3 cats is nothing compared to others who has multiple cats in their houses and apartments.

Do you live in a landed or apartment? I have a bottle of softlan which I use to wash my clothes with. How to make one febreeze, like how much water and softlan to add in the spray. Yes you are right, he will still find ways to find fault with me even if I bring this up to MPPP and they let me keep and I don't like that cause I am a peaceful man who get's upset easilly when other peopl e are causing trouble. Everytime he makes a complain I get worried alot and I can't even eat or sleep for days. It's like that feeling you get when you broke up with your girl friend. Every complain he keeps saying the same thing that his son fall sick or his whole family fall sick.

adrianng87 11-02-2010 11:21 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90529)
I live in an apartment with three lovely cats. After moving out from my old house I thought I have freedom and get to own animals cause I love animals I had hamsters and guinea pigs last time before I move on to have cats when my hamsters and guinea pigs were dead due to all age. After moving here for the first two years I had a very peaceful time. Then came this new neighbour a few blocks away just moved in. There first year was no problem then the problem starts. He keeps complaining about the smell and everyone in his family fall sick. He came to my house in the middle of the night and knock on my window and I answered he started to scold me. After a few months he went to the malays (now already shifted out) and complain to them also with the same excuse that his family fall sick. Then he brought this up to the management every once and then and I get a call from the management asking me to do something about the smell. So I just ignore it and just do my cleaning even installed air wick auto dispenser to get rid of the smell.
Just recently the neighbour even get the comitee involve. I was called to the office to discuss. Now I was ordered that my cats be taken to someplace else or throw them away or they would call the MPPP. I tried to argue with them but the comitte said in the S&P is already stated that no cats and dogs are allowed but there are people in that building rearing cats even dogs. They said a police report is also made. Just for argue sake, do they have the rights to do that? To me is really unfair cause I got nowhere else to go. I don't have any other place to put them. If there is I wouldn't be staying here. Because i love my cats alot I had to find another place to stay while I going to sell off this apartment.

hi kmleong,
just to share a story of the same case of my aunt who is facing the same problem currently too.

my aunt lives in a condominium in ampang jaya, she, herself is an animal lover so she would feed any stray cats that passes by the back lorong of her house if she spots any. and so, this made quite a number of strays cats stayed over nights at the back lorong of her house. at the same time, she is having 2 cocker spaniel inside of the house.

things are just fine from the upkeep of her house and the back area, but then, there was one day when the condominium changed the management in-charge, the new management gave her a warning letter to evacuate the stray cats when they spotted there are a lot of cats wandering around her house. then, my aunt stopped feeding them and asked for my help to find the cats a good home. me and my friend helped out to re-home them one by one, and some fell sick cos of starving knowing they are too depending on my aunt to feed them daily. my aunt is not financially capable to send all of them to spca though is nearby to her place and this made my aunt cried for few nights because of her guilt to stop feeding the stray cats to ensure she gets no problem staying at the condo along with the management.

later that, few had died and few were adopted, but the management just don't seem to like my aunt no matter how she already done to not let the cats wander around, like what others have said, people will just find a mistake to blame on you, so the management later blame my aunt's two dogs are making the condo area a lot of foul smells and noise. but before the new management took place there were no complaints at all as the dogs are kept earlier than the cats exist there.

so the second and third warning letters was issued with mpaj's people came inspecting her house. she told the mpaj how she manage the dogs and ask for rayuan and they said they will give more time to evacuate the dogs only. my aunt later tried everything to ask mpaj's office again, and nothing she could do to stop the complaints issued by the management, so she ignored it as that time she is already mentally breaking down.

after 1 month, mpaj came visit again with a letter fining about (im not sure the exact amount) RM500-RM700. then my aunt went and ask for rayuan again, what mpaj did was reduce the amount of fine only, but the same action of evacuating the dogs had to be taken, but given a longer period of time. now my aunt had given up and planning to move out of that condo.

just a suggestion, if you think the management there is already not worth to be paid a single cent for your comfort living in your apartment, then find another one that can let you keep your pets comfortably (of course with a clean environment taking care of your pets), i know its not easy and it'll be quite troublesome, but you got my support! good luck kmleong!

FurKids 11-03-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90576)
Do you live in a landed or apartment? I have a bottle of softlan which I use to wash my clothes with. How to make one febreeze, like how much water and softlan to add in the spray. Yes you are right, he will still find ways to find fault with me even if I bring this up to MPPP and they let me keep and I don't like that cause I am a peaceful man who get's upset easilly when other peopl e are causing trouble. Everytime he makes a complain I get worried alot and I can't even eat or sleep for days. It's like that feeling you get when you broke up with your girl friend. Every complain he keeps saying the same thing that his son fall sick or his whole family fall sick.

Friend, as long as your neighbour complains, there is NOTHING the local council authorities can do for you BECAUSE the cepumas is " ... provided that your neighbours DO NOT COMPLAIN about your pets ...".

Even if you do keep the number of pets as allowed by the local council in your premises, if any of your neighbours complains of annoyance i.e. barking, smell, etc., your pets CAN be taken away from you. Pet ownership is not a right, it is just an entitlement.
That is why, relationship with neighbours is important. And before you purchase a piece of property, make sure you survey the area and the mentality of the people there.

There are places where you can let your animals (cats, not dogs) enjoy and live outdoors but there are some where you cannot. Either some itchy finggers (people who only know how to play with but not care for the cats) will steal your nice healthy looking cats and dump them when they are sick, or there are stray dogs, or the people there simply hate them and cannot even tolerate the sight of them, let alone the poo-poo in their garden or backlane.

And sad to say, there are even places where you cannot even keep them indoors with peace ... your neighbour several doors away complains that you are causing their asthma!

Whatever it is, I sympathise with you and wish you luck with your furries. Pets are such a joy and they make your life so much more worthwhile, not to mention your improved health.

kmleong 11-03-2010 04:35 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90586)
hi kmleong,
just to share a story of the same case of my aunt who is facing the same problem currently too.

my aunt lives in a condominium in ampang jaya, she, herself is an animal lover so she would feed any stray cats that passes by the back lorong of her house if she spots any. and so, this made quite a number of strays cats stayed over nights at the back lorong of her house. at the same time, she is having 2 cocker spaniel inside of the house.

things are just fine from the upkeep of her house and the back area, but then, there was one day when the condominium changed the management in-charge, the new management gave her a warning letter to evacuate the stray cats when they spotted there are a lot of cats wandering around her house. then, my aunt stopped feeding them and asked for my help to find the cats a good home. me and my friend helped out to re-home them one by one, and some fell sick cos of starving knowing they are too depending on my aunt to feed them daily. my aunt is not financially capable to send all of them to spca though is nearby to her place and this made my aunt cried for few nights because of her guilt to stop feeding the stray cats to ensure she gets no problem staying at the condo along with the management.

later that, few had died and few were adopted, but the management just don't seem to like my aunt no matter how she already done to not let the cats wander around, like what others have said, people will just find a mistake to blame on you, so the management later blame my aunt's two dogs are making the condo area a lot of foul smells and noise. but before the new management took place there were no complaints at all as the dogs are kept earlier than the cats exist there.

so the second and third warning letters was issued with mpaj's people came inspecting her house. she told the mpaj how she manage the dogs and ask for rayuan and they said they will give more time to evacuate the dogs only. my aunt later tried everything to ask mpaj's office again, and nothing she could do to stop the complaints issued by the management, so she ignored it as that time she is already mentally breaking down.

after 1 month, mpaj came visit again with a letter fining about (im not sure the exact amount) RM500-RM700. then my aunt went and ask for rayuan again, what mpaj did was reduce the amount of fine only, but the same action of evacuating the dogs had to be taken, but given a longer period of time. now my aunt had given up and planning to move out of that condo.

just a suggestion, if you think the management there is already not worth to be paid a single cent for your comfort living in your apartment, then find another one that can let you keep your pets comfortably (of course with a clean environment taking care of your pets), i know its not easy and it'll be quite troublesome, but you got my support! good luck kmleong!

I feel happy that I'm not the only one with this problem but also feel sad for your aunt. Stories like these makes my heart pain. Your aunt have problems with the management while mine is with the neighbour. Moving is the solution but same time makes me sad cause I bought this place while it was still under development. That's why I can't survey the place or ask anyone whether pets are allowed. As you know sales ppl they don't know anything their job is only to register your name for purchases. I stayed here already around five years, spend alot of money on furniture. This was the cheapest apartment (115K) on sale and also near my work place just 5 min drive. Most apartments cost 200k++ here in Penang. By right the management shouldn't interfere. The cats doesn't belong to your aunt, she doesn't keep them in her house so basically it's not under her. In my place there are lots of stray cats roaming around not just on the ground floor but also on the 2nd 3rd floor. They come up by themself but our management doesn't do anything but only take action on cats that have ownership. I'm not sounding like I don't like the presence of these stray cats but just explaining how the management do things. I do feed these strays if they come to my door step especially one particular one which I name happy. Whenever I come home she will run to my block whenever I return home cause she sleeps in a few blocks away. But she doesn't seem to like to eat cat biscuits but wants fish but I think there are other neighbour also feeding them. Now i don't know where she has gone, probably to the upper floor.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the story. Hope your aunt will find a better place.

kmleong 11-03-2010 05:08 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FurKids (Post 90593)
Friend, as long as your neighbour complains, there is NOTHING the local council authorities can do for you BECAUSE the cepumas is " ... provided that your neighbours DO NOT COMPLAIN about your pets ...".

Even if you do keep the number of pets as allowed by the local council in your premises, if any of your neighbours complains of annoyance i.e. barking, smell, etc., your pets CAN be taken away from you. Pet ownership is not a right, it is just an entitlement.
That is why, relationship with neighbours is important. And before you purchase a piece of property, make sure you survey the area and the mentality of the people there.

There are places where you can let your animals (cats, not dogs) enjoy and live outdoors but there are some where you cannot. Either some itchy finggers (people who only know how to play with but not care for the cats) will steal your nice healthy looking cats and dump them when they are sick, or there are stray dogs, or the people there simply hate them and cannot even tolerate the sight of them, let alone the poo-poo in their garden or backlane.

And sad to say, there are even places where you cannot even keep them indoors with peace ... your neighbour several doors away complains that you are causing their asthma!

Whatever it is, I sympathise with you and wish you luck with your furries. Pets are such a joy and they make your life so much more worthwhile, not to mention your improved health.

Well, I bought this apartment when it was still under development so I can't survey the place. i moved in a year later after it got the OC. After a year staying here (the neighbour) bought it from someone else the corner unit. First 1-2 years there was no complains from him. Then he came in the middle of the night pass midnight and started knocking on my window when I answered he started complaining in a rude way instead of talking nicely, so we got into an argument. Every now and then he still makes complains and I get a call from the management to do something about the smell. This time the comittee was involved, three guys + the management + the neighbour all together 5 ppl were there during the meeting. They ask me to evict right away so what is your plan, the MPPP tel no is just right infront of us we can call them right now. What kind of a threat is this?
So what you are saying there's no point go and see MPPP about this matter cause even if I manage to plea from them if the neighbour still makes complain MPPP will find me or take away my cats? I don't think there's any end if we continue fighting cause even if I do keep the place clean when his son or family fall sick he will put the blame on me.

blackie007 11-04-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Unfortunately, some people misunderstand cats and hate them with a passion. Even my ex-neighbour who proclaims herself to be an animal lover. She picks up stray dogs as pets, but told me unequivocally that she just hates cats and wants to kick them the minute she sees them approaching her table for food.

So it could be that this neighbour of yours happens to be one of those cat-haters. And that will cause him to pick on every small little thing, e.g., smell, fur, etc., and blame every negative thing that happened to him and his family on you.

adrianng87 11-04-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Hi kmleong,
You might wanna take Furkids' advice to ask some of your friends to help inspect / sniff out if the surrounding in and out of your apartment is having the foul smell, again as Furkids said, your nose senses is already somehow immune to your own house smell (whether it is a good or foul smell) you will have problem to determine it yourself. Ask a few friends to help determine it so you can get a fair result.

After you have done that, if foul smell really do spread to your neighbours' apartment lot, you might wanna get try this 'dettol disinfectant spray'.
http://www.dettol.co.uk/sf_allfamily.shtml (p.s i am not a dettol agent {shy}) You might wanna spray this even at the front of your house where people do walk by a lot. Have been using this for few months, i can't say this will help to kill the smell for one whole day with just a spray, but i'm sure it'll definitely help for times when you can't chase out the smells by youself, by the way, this dettol spray also kills bacterias. {wink}

adrianng87 11-04-2010 01:09 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90612)
Well, I bought this apartment when it was still under development so I can't survey the place. i moved in a year later after it got the OC. After a year staying here (the neighbour) bought it from someone else the corner unit. First 1-2 years there was no complains from him. Then he came in the middle of the night pass midnight and started knocking on my window when I answered he started complaining in a rude way instead of talking nicely, so we got into an argument. Every now and then he still makes complains and I get a call from the management to do something about the smell. This time the comittee was involved, three guys + the management + the neighbour all together 5 ppl were there during the meeting. They ask me to evict right away so what is your plan, the MPPP tel no is just right infront of us we can call them right now. What kind of a threat is this?
So what you are saying there's no point go and see MPPP about this matter cause even if I manage to plea from them if the neighbour still makes complain MPPP will find me or take away my cats? I don't think there's any end if we continue fighting cause even if I do keep the place clean when his son or family fall sick he will put the blame on me.

kmleong,
When the management already ask to evict the cats, they will find ways to take them away. Don't get tensed here, just another experienced to share from my aunt that I forgot to tell is, when my aunt ignored the management's complaints of her stray cats, the management actually paid some kids to catch the stray cats that stayed over nights at the back area of my aunt's condo, my aunt caught the kids in the middle of the night hiding from one corner and some behind of cars making sounds to attract the cats to go to them like "tsik tsik tsik... meow meow...". When my aunt caught the kids in the middle of the night and asked, the kids admitted they were paid by the management to do a task of CATCH & DUMP the cats elsewhere out of the condo far far away. You might wanna avoid this incident happen to you. {sick}

The idea of letting Stella to foster the cats at the moment is a good idea. Let the management know that you have already move the cats out for good, don't suck in the arguments already, it's not worth when people all around you doesn't treat you well. Find a better and nice neighbourhood that allows you to have pets indoor.

kmleong 11-04-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie007 (Post 90636)
Unfortunately, some people misunderstand cats and hate them with a passion. Even my ex-neighbour who proclaims herself to be an animal lover. She picks up stray dogs as pets, but told me unequivocally that she just hates cats and wants to kick them the minute she sees them approaching her table for food.

So it could be that this neighbour of yours happens to be one of those cat-haters. And that will cause him to pick on every small little thing, e.g., smell, fur, etc., and blame every negative thing that happened to him and his family on you.

Just a year ago one block away there is a malay family stays there. They had one persian brown male cat. Their grandma can even speak hokkien. I always sembang with her. So she told me that particular neighbour came to them and complain about the smell. I see their is very clean and I don't smell anything besides is only one cat not like many. She told me he's going to make a complaint to the management and she was really frightened that the MPPP might come and take her jojo away so I tried to calm her saying nothing bad will happen. now they have moved already moved out this July I think.

kmleong 11-04-2010 04:03 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90639)
Hi kmleong,
You might wanna take Furkids' advice to ask some of your friends to help inspect / sniff out if the surrounding in and out of your apartment is having the foul smell, again as Furkids said, your nose senses is already somehow immune to your own house smell (whether it is a good or foul smell) you will have problem to determine it yourself. Ask a few friends to help determine it so you can get a fair result.

After you have done that, if foul smell really do spread to your neighbours' apartment lot, you might wanna get try this 'dettol disinfectant spray'.
http://www.dettol.co.uk/sf_allfamily.shtml (p.s i am not a dettol agent {shy}) You might wanna spray this even at the front of your house where people do walk by a lot. Have been using this for few months, i can't say this will help to kill the smell for one whole day with just a spray, but i'm sure it'll definitely help for times when you can't chase out the smells by youself, by the way, this dettol spray also kills bacterias. {wink}

Is it the disinfectant spray? I think I have like 2-3 cans before. I use it ony my dustbin but doesn't actually help with the smell. As for the smell the cleaner who comes and clean the corridor (the walkway) says they can smell a bit but that was long time ago. After I did something about it she said is now ok.

adrianng87 11-04-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
kmleong,
I have tried disinfectant sprays of other brands, but dettol works better, provided your dustbin you spray on has to be cleaned (stains in the dustbin has to be cleaned/washed). You can't just rely on the disinfectant spray or febreeze or whatever things that will make your house smell good because the spray doesn't mention that they can 'clean' dirty items. They only neutralizes the bad odor. {wink} If your dustbin is full of thrash, there is no use to neutralize it's smell because the thrash inside can grow more bacterias of bad smell.

Just a friendly reminder, floor and pet items that are always exposed to your pet playing, sleeping & eating have to be cleaned thoroughly, as in mop, sweep or wipe with necessary liquid cleaner. This will rest assure that no foul smell inhibits. Carpets, sofas and curtains too carries a lot of pet smells. Remember to wash these items from time to time, and your house will be shining and smellin' good in no time!

But if you have already tried all of the mentioned above, and your neighbour is still complaining, then you might wanna consider to move out a better place.

kmleong 11-04-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90656)
kmleong,
I have tried disinfectant sprays of other brands, but dettol works better, provided your dustbin you spray on has to be cleaned (stains in the dustbin has to be cleaned/washed). You can't just rely on the disinfectant spray or febreeze or whatever things that will make your house smell good because the spray doesn't mention that they can 'clean' dirty items. They only neutralizes the bad odor. {wink} If your dustbin is full of thrash, there is no use to neutralize it's smell because the thrash inside can grow more bacterias of bad smell.

Just a friendly reminder, floor and pet items that are always exposed to your pet playing, sleeping & eating have to be cleaned thoroughly, as in mop, sweep or wipe with necessary liquid cleaner. This will rest assure that no foul smell inhibits. Carpets, sofas and curtains too carries a lot of pet smells. Remember to wash these items from time to time, and your house will be shining and smellin' good in no time!

But if you have already tried all of the mentioned above, and your neighbour is still complaining, then you might wanna consider to move out a better place.

The thing is I mop every week, scoop the litter each day and I have two trays. Because I live alone I don't have much furniture like sofa, only had a double be in my room and a dining table. i haven't thought about spraying the curtains until Felix the cat told me about it. Wish I should have found this forum long ago until now is too late. At first it was a call from the management that someone made a complain every few months. Then this indian family problem they blame on me as well telling the comitee why the one on the 2nd floor also have cats the the problem seem to be like transfer to me. Otherwise the comitee wouldn't get involved.

adrianng87 11-04-2010 07:30 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Yes, the febreeze suggested is very useful for people who have pets.

So what do you have in plan now kmleong? I bet you must have something in mind that you want to do, be it a fight or whatever, please do share with us before you decide what to do, see if there's anything we can help in terms of giving some brain-storming advices. {wink}

kmleong 11-04-2010 08:34 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90669)
Yes, the febreeze suggested is very useful for people who have pets.

So what do you have in plan now kmleong? I bet you must have something in mind that you want to do, be it a fight or whatever, please do share with us before you decide what to do, see if there's anything we can help in terms of giving some brain-storming advices. {wink}

I forgot to add something, during the meeting I ask the comitee what smell are they referring to (poo or cat smell) they can't determine. Like what other's said, if you fight for it even if you appeal to the MPPP if they want to make trouble (the neighbours) they can come up with other ways. There are lots of problems here, from ppl throwing rubbish, security sleeping, parking problems, all kinds of problems here.

azieazlie 11-05-2010 11:20 AM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90676)
I forgot to add something, during the meeting I ask the comitee what smell are they referring to (poo or cat smell) they can't determine. Like what other's said, if you fight for it even if you appeal to the MPPP if they want to make trouble (the neighbours) they can come up with other ways. There are lots of problems here, from ppl throwing rubbish, security sleeping, parking problems, all kinds of problems here.

hi kmleong,your're right, kalau you kenal forum pf ni dari awal sebelum you beli apartment tempat you tinggal sekarang sure you tak akan menghadapi masaalah ni semua dan mungkin jiran pun tak tau didalam rumah you ada kucing. you cuma ada 3 ekor kucing, tak banyak.. dan tak mendatangkan masaalah jika kita tahu cara penjagaan yang betul bila ada binatang didalam rumah. nasihat yang diberikan teman2 pf disini semua betul belaka. Tapi, kalau you betul2 sayangkan kucing2 you, saya rasa elok you sewakan atau jual apartment itu dan carilah kediaman yang baru. dari apa yang you tulis, you makin tak tenteram tinggal dirumah you sendiri sebab mempunyai jiran yang sentiasa mencari salah disebabkan rumah you berkucing dan dia kata berbau, masaalah dengan jiran yang membuang sampah merata rata, security yang asyik tidur dan macam2 hal lagi disitu. carilah tempat tinggal baru kmleong, sebab rumah kita sepatutnya menjadi syurga kita.. oh ya, sudahkah you mandulkan kucing2 you itu? apa makanan yang you beri mereka makan? maafkan saya sebab terlebih bertanya..

kmleong 11-05-2010 01:41 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azieazlie (Post 90707)
hi kmleong,your're right, kalau you kenal forum pf ni dari awal sebelum you beli apartment tempat you tinggal sekarang sure you tak akan menghadapi masaalah ni semua dan mungkin jiran pun tak tau didalam rumah you ada kucing. you cuma ada 3 ekor kucing, tak banyak.. dan tak mendatangkan masaalah jika kita tahu cara penjagaan yang betul bila ada binatang didalam rumah. nasihat yang diberikan teman2 pf disini semua betul belaka. Tapi, kalau you betul2 sayangkan kucing2 you, saya rasa elok you sewakan atau jual apartment itu dan carilah kediaman yang baru. dari apa yang you tulis, you makin tak tenteram tinggal dirumah you sendiri sebab mempunyai jiran yang sentiasa mencari salah disebabkan rumah you berkucing dan dia kata berbau, masaalah dengan jiran yang membuang sampah merata rata, security yang asyik tidur dan macam2 hal lagi disitu. carilah tempat tinggal baru kmleong, sebab rumah kita sepatutnya menjadi syurga kita.. oh ya, sudahkah you mandulkan kucing2 you itu? apa makanan yang you beri mereka makan? maafkan saya sebab terlebih bertanya..

Both female are already operated except for the male persian. I gave them Friskies biscuit type. If I give the tin the male persian sometimes have diarrhea. Like what the others said, if I rayu from MPPP if they do let me keep the neighbour will still find other ways to make trouble especially he will use the excuse that his family fall sick. (His indonesian maid his son bla bla bla). That day during the meeting he said his maid that day was so weak to stand up and was shaking. If people fall sick means they are not well taken care off and not blame on other people right? The neighbours who live just right next to me never complain about the smell and he lives few blocks away from me so why is he the only one who fall sick?

kmleong 11-05-2010 02:12 PM

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Here I took some pictures of my apartment. Give some comments on what you think about the surrounding and the neighbour.

The first picture is the neighbour that always makes the complaint (arrow on the left) the arrow on the right is another neighbour which is next to me. The other picture shows the window looking out from my 2nd room. As you can see there are lots of rubbish. The cleaner came and clear it a few months ago if not you will see a bigger pile of rubbish.

Here are also some pictures of my cats. See how well they are taken care of.

June 11-05-2010 04:17 PM

Cats in Apartments
 
Please don't use dettol to disinfect your home with cats. Dettol is fatal to cat. Use clorox.


Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90653)
Is it the disinfectant spray? I think I have like 2-3 cans before. I use it ony my dustbin but doesn't actually help with the smell. As for the smell the cleaner who comes and clean the corridor (the walkway) says they can smell a bit but that was long time ago. After I did something about it she said is now ok.


nur azua 11-05-2010 05:15 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
off topic sikit. maaf tuan tanah..

*for floor*
http://www.dettol.co.uk/sf_floors.shtml (bukan agent jugak{shy})

kalau nak guna untuk lantai boleh je..tapi make sure lantai cukup kering sebelum boleh lepaskan kucing berjalan3 di atasnya..

Advantages: Kills 99.9% of germs, can be used on many surfaces, gentle on children & pets (quoted from http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/household-pr...spray/1444527/)

as for me, dettol is not significantly harm to human & mammals..but it is significantly harmful to bacteria & some viruses..

kmleong, good luck in finding a new home (pet-friendly one).lovely cats u have there .{victory}

regards.

kmleong 11-05-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nur azua (Post 90714)
off topic sikit. maaf tuan tanah..

*for floor*
http://www.dettol.co.uk/sf_floors.shtml (bukan agent jugak{shy})

kalau nak guna untuk lantai boleh je..tapi make sure lantai cukup kering sebelum boleh lepaskan kucing berjalan3 di atasnya..

Advantages: Kills 99.9% of germs, can be used on many surfaces, gentle on children & pets (quoted from http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/household-pr...spray/1444527/)

as for me, dettol is not significantly harm to human & mammals..but it is significantly harmful to bacteria & some viruses..

kmleong, good luck in finding a new home (pet-friendly one).lovely cats u have there .{victory}

regards.

I use the dettol for mopping floor cause the management said to use dettol more wangi. Is it safe for cats?

nur azua 11-05-2010 06:54 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
I believe it should be okay after the floor is completely dry. Dont let your cat roaming around while the floor is still wet.

regards.

June 11-05-2010 06:58 PM

Cats in Apartments
 
You can use clorox for disinfection. Dettol works for human for disinfection but not for cats. To make it more wangi you can use natural lemongrass concentrate which now sold in many supermarket. At the same time this lemongrass concentrate can eliminate insects like ants & cocroaches.

But if you think you still want to use dettol is up to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90717)
I use the dettol for mopping floor cause the management said to use dettol more wangi. Is it safe for cats?


adrianng87 11-05-2010 08:05 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by June (Post 90719)
You can use clorox for disinfection. Dettol works for human for disinfection but not for cats. To make it more wangi you can use natural lemongrass concentrate which now sold in many supermarket. At the same time this lemongrass concentrate can eliminate insects like ants & cocroaches.

But if you think you still want to use dettol is up to you.

Wawa, yes, dettol kills germs but not pets, I used dettol to mop for few years already and started to use dettol disinfectant sprays for few months already, no side effects from my cats at all. {victory} (again, not agent for dettol) {shy}

Like June said, yes, it's up to you, I am just suggesting because I am satisfied with the results of my clean environment. {wink}

adrianng87 11-05-2010 08:08 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90712)
Here I took some pictures of my apartment. Give some comments on what you think about the surrounding and the neighbour.

The first picture is the neighbour that always makes the complaint (arrow on the left) the arrow on the right is another neighbour which is next to me. The other picture shows the window looking out from my 2nd room. As you can see there are lots of rubbish. The cleaner came and clear it a few months ago if not you will see a bigger pile of rubbish.

Here are also some pictures of my cats. See how well they are taken care of.

kmleong, your cats sure are adorable! Very healthy lookin' too. But after looking at the pictures, I still can't tell if it really affects your neighbour as I can't feel how the wind flow is at your lot. Izit windy there?

kmleong 11-05-2010 08:36 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90722)
kmleong, your cats sure are adorable! Very healthy lookin' too. But after looking at the pictures, I still can't tell if it really affects your neighbour as I can't feel how the wind flow is at your lot. Izit windy there?

Sometimes it gets very breezy like as if a storm is coming. From my place to his is about 30 path walking steps. A year ago when I got a call from the management about the smell about my neighbour complaining he suggested using dettol. After use one bottle finish I use Ajax which was left over a few years ago cause I bought like 2-3 bottles when I moved in. Now my cats are with Stella I mop with dettol again, just bought a new bottle. During the meeting he ask me after transfer ask me to clean the whole house. He also suggest to ask someone to spray the whole house which cose few hundred ringgit. Who he think he is after gotten my cats evicted and asking me to clean the whole house? What is he thinking? that I'm rearing a cat farm?

adrianng87 11-05-2010 08:53 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmleong (Post 90725)
Sometimes it gets very breezy like as if a storm is coming. From my place to his is about 30 path walking steps. A year ago when I got a call from the management about the smell about my neighbour complaining he suggested using dettol. After use one bottle finish I use Ajax which was left over a few years ago cause I bought like 2-3 bottles when I moved in. Now my cats are with Stella I mop with dettol again, just bought a new bottle. During the meeting he ask me after transfer ask me to clean the whole house. He also suggest to ask someone to spray the whole house which cose few hundred ringgit. Who he think he is after gotten my cats evicted and asking me to clean the whole house? What is he thinking? that I'm rearing a cat farm?

Hey kmleong, to do as told to mop with Dettol is absolutely fine, but about the specialist spraying thing, I am not sure if that's gonna work even after you did, you might end up spending few hundred or thousand ringgit and still they will complain again with other stuffs, maybe like, should repaint your walls, should change your furnitures, should install new ventilation fan in front of your house, and etc, I mean, try something savvy that can make them stop complaining. Just a suggestion, if you have a stand fan, maybe you could try on facing your fan out to your balcony to let the air flow that way? Maybe to use Dettol and mop at the walkway towards your neighbour's house? Or anything that shows you are doing some hardworks of improving the comfort living there, inform the management that you have done almost all and see how your neighbour tells again. If they are still complaining again that even now there are absolute no cats in your house, then they might have a problem looking a fight with you, but not the cats.

nur azua 11-05-2010 08:57 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Off topic again, sorry

Yeah adrian..sure dettol do not kill any pet..i tried to search any scientific papers/journal to check about the active compound of dettol which might lead me to the prove that dettol is harmful to pets.but, i dont find any..Besides, we use very small concentration of the dettol when we diluted some amount of dettol to water..maybe 1000x dilution..{shy} i dont think with that dilution it may affect our pets..{victory}

regards

adrianng87 11-05-2010 09:35 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nur azua (Post 90728)
Off topic again, sorry

Yeah adrian..sure dettol do not kill any pet..i tried to search any scientific papers/journal to check about the active compound of dettol which might lead me to the prove that dettol is harmful to pets.but, i dont find any..Besides, we use very small concentration of the dettol when we diluted some amount of dettol to water..maybe 1000x dilution..{shy} i dont think with that dilution it may affect our pets..{victory}

regards

To speak about it's specialty from Dettol, it contains a chemical agent that makes it a very distinctive smell cleaner, that kills a lot of bacterias and germs.

Simple, it is something like humans, some may be able take the smell and some may find sensitive towards the liquid even just by smelling, pets too, so if you find any Dettol liquid cleaner or disinfectant spray is causing some side effects to your pets, stop it immediately. Sorry if I did not make this clear for everyone, I did not mention that I recommend to use Dettol to clean your pets, or spray disinfectant on your pets, it should use as a cleaner for floors, use it as a liquid cleaner onto any possible dirt, spray on dustbins, door knobs, tv controllers and etc, not direct to pets. Clean and let it dry 120%, I am sure of my use of Dettol doesn't cause any trouble for my cats. Correct me if I am wrong, even clorox and the other brands of liquid cleaners are hazardous to your pets if it's orally exposed to your pets.

So please keep in mind guys. Sorry off topic, again.
Lets give some other useful advice for kmleong again aite. {wink}

nur azua 11-05-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adrianng87 (Post 90729)
To speak about it's specialty from Dettol, it contains a chemical agent that makes it a very distinctive smell cleaner, that kills a lot of bacterias and germs.

Simple, it is something like humans, some may be able take the smell and some may find sensitive towards the liquid even just by smelling, pets too, so if you find any Dettol liquid cleaner or disinfectant spray is causing some side effects to your pets, stop it immediately. Sorry if I did not make this clear for everyone, I did not mention that I recommend to use Dettol to clean your pets, or spray disinfectant on your pets, it should use as a cleaner for floors, use it as a liquid cleaner onto any possible dirt, spray on dustbins, door knobs, tv controllers and etc, not direct to pets. Clean and let it dry 120%, I am sure of my use of Dettol doesn't cause any trouble for my cats. Correct me if I am wrong, even clorox and the other brands of liquid cleaners are hazardous to your pets if it's orally exposed to your pets.

So please keep in mind guys. Sorry off topic, again.
Lets give some other useful advice for kmleong again aite. {wink}

yes..i get the info clearly..kunci ketat3 sume bottle chemical ye...nanti terminum pulak..{victory}

kmleong, i think if the management still complaint about the smell eventhough your cats are no longer in the house..it means that, the management got some problem..maybe the smell come from other places..i really hope that your problem will be solved a.s.a.p..{victory}

adrianng87 11-05-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Hey kmleong, just to share some info that might be able to help you, you might wanna try some of these methods...

How To Make Your House Smell Good Quickly

Cut The Butt
As we all know, smoking not only poses a serious health hazard, it also smells bad because it contains a lot of things that smell bad. Thus, as you can see, it is harmful not only for you and your family members; it also makes the house smell bad. It is of course understandable that smoking isn’t easy to quit, but when you weigh the odds, you will realise that it would be one of the best decisions you may have made in life. If this isn’t possible for you or will take a lot of time, then the next best option for you is to dedicate one room only for smoking. Though this one room will reek of tobacco, you will have just one stinking room rather than a whole stinking house.

Nice Doggie, Clean Doggie
Having dirty and unwashed pets around the house is another big reason for the house to smell bad. It is understandable that neither cats nor dogs like to take baths but it is upto you to make sure that they remain clean and do not wallow too much in dirt or filth. If they wallow too much in muck and refuse to let you clean them, they should be kept out of the house.

Flowers
Fresh flowers are the cheapest and best way to keep your home smelling fresh and clean. You could use strongly fragrant flowers or just those that give out mild fragrances. They are also perhaps the most inexpensive way of decorating the home. Only, make sure you keep changing the water in them, which is important when it comes to reviving wilting flowers.

Potpourri
Who doesn’t love the scents that a potpourri arrangement gives out? Though it lightens the pocket initially, it is one of the best ways to make the home smell good. The best places to keep potpourri arrangements are near the balcony, next to the sink and other places where there is a possibility of stench stemming up.

Scented Candles
We all know that scented candles are available in all fragrances, sizes, and shapes. Some of them make excellent decoration pieces and can be placed at various locations around the house. One of the cheapest ways of filling your home with scent is to use incense sticks. Another way to fill your home with wonderful fragrance, which may not be as finely scented as the various fragrant oils available, is to use camphor. All one needs to do is to put a normal candle or lamp in an earthen scent diffuser and fill the top container with a few pieces of camphor. Within seconds the camphor will begin to sublimate and will give out a fresh fragrance.

Extracted from http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/loun...ood-10097.html

kmleong 11-05-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nur azua (Post 90731)
yes..i get the info clearly..kunci ketat3 sume bottle chemical ye...nanti terminum pulak..{victory}

kmleong, i think if the management still complaint about the smell eventhough your cats are no longer in the house..it means that, the management got some problem..maybe the smell come from other places..i really hope that your problem will be solved a.s.a.p..{victory}

After I moved my cats they don't bother me anymore. What I'm trying to say is during the meeting with the comitee and the neighbour after I agreed to put them in the management's house he (the neighbour) suggested that I clean the whole house so I just said i will just mop the floor and ask me what i clean with so I said with dettol then he suggest why not call the ppl come and spray which means he's going overboard you know what I mean? i do take care of my cats and my house it's not like I take them in and leave them and not care for them (the cats) and not clean my house. Is like something small he's trying to make it a big issue like as if my house is a pig farm.

adrianng87 11-05-2010 11:08 PM

Re: Cats in Apartments
 
Wait there's more...

How to Get Rid of Pet Odors in Your House

Step 1
Dust and sweep the house. Vacuum the couch, behind the furniture, and sweep under things. Use a scented, odor removing carpet powder. Wash the curtains if it's been awhile. Pet hair can get into the darndest places. Rent a carpet cleaner and clean the rugs in your home every three or four months. You can even use an attachment to clean your upholstery.

Step 2
Spray fabric refresher on all soft surfaces. I've found that Glade fabric refresher works better than Febreze. For an even more effective barrier, slip cover your couches and chairs, so you can throw the covers in the washing once a week. Spray the couches underneath to keep them fresh.

Step 3
Place an open box of baking soda near litter boxes, dog bedding, cat towers and feeding areas.

Step 4
Get an electric air filter and run it on low. This will do the most in keeping your house scent free. In addition to sweetening the air, it will also provide better quality air and remove dander. Remember to change the filter regularly. While the filter will remove pet odors, any heavily perfumed scent in the air will stay for a little while. (See step 6.)

Step 5
Tuck dryer sheets in the register vents and under couch cushions. When you sit down on a couch or chair you will get a little scent of dryer freshness.

Step 6
Before guests arrive, burn some incense. Yes, the air filter will eventually clean it out of the air, but it will linger in corners. Keep the incense away from the air filter for the longest lasting smell.

Step 7
Have you heard about scented furnace filters? These are cheap, and come in some yummy scents. Try the cinnamon, it's festive and not overpowering.

Step 8
White vinegar is the daddy mac of all household cleaning products. Use it on pet stains, and use it with your regular detergent in your laundry. It removes pet odors from bedding--even urine. It's great as a general purpose cleanser as well. Mix white vinegar and water in a spray bottle and use it to wipe down counters, baseboards, any hard surface. When the vinegar smell dissipates, the air will be much more fresh.


*Tips & Warnings

#1
Brushing your pets frequently will remove the amount of dander in the air.

#2
If your pet is really stinky, and bathing does not help, see your vet. Your pet may have a skin condition that can be helped with special shampoo, spot treatments or over the counter medication.

#3
Buy only pet safe products. When in doubt, plain baking soda will work as a carpet sprinkle. Many of the carpet products out there are pet safe, but read the label to be sure.

#4
Don't burn incense or scented candles without supervision. And make sure anything with a flame is put up high, out of reach of climbing, jumping cats.

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