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ashleywong 08-12-2008 10:17 AM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Dear All Forummers and Animal Lovers

I urgently require help with caring for samantha.


I took samantha for her vet visit last sunday - for her vaccination and later on her neutering . unfortunately the vet pronounced her as pregnant - at least six weeks along. i was shocked to hear that as i kept her caged up and separated from my cats (one of which is still un-neutered) and any strays since she came to me . she must have been pregnant when she turned up at my doorstep. she's with me now for slightly over six weeks. vet said she's due in either 2 or 3 weeks time (pregnancy duration of 65 days)

my choices now are :
1) take her for abortion although it's considered late term abortion

2) to see her through with her care and delivery of her kittens

i've chosen for option 2 as i'm not sure there's any animal shelter here that practices no-kill policy (especially for a pregnant cat and future unwanted litter).

i've looked at my own household and i realised i'm short on

1) space to seggregate samantha from my own cats and gabriel so that samantha has a safe place for delivery - will reduce stress for her. not the time to try to integrate her with my cats right now. my cats don't like it for some reason.

2) i don't know anything about caring for pregnant cats and her kittens before, during and after delivery. just hearing the vet described it, i'm already panicking.


can some good samaritan out there help to take over care of samantha in her current condition? if yes, then i can turn my attention to her son, gabriel and keep him with me while trying to seek a permanent home for gabriel.

for some reason, my own cats are reacting aggressively to gabriel and to each other - they're very nervous and edgy. i am unable to cope with a pregnant cat right now, i'll be honest and i'm not too proud to ask for help especially when my mistakes and pride may cause further suffering to samantha and gabriel.

pls don't mistake my request for help as indicating that samantha is difficult and aggressive. that's far from it. she's still the sweet girl she is - just that i wish to have a good environment for her right now without her having to worry about her safety shelter and food.i myself am not able to care properly for her and i don't wish to do her an injustice by being to proud to admit that i need help with samantha.

pls don't worry, i won't ask any volunteers to foot samantha's vet bills. i can provide food for samantha if she's taken care by a volunteer but not the other equipments like litter box, water and food bowl, litter material or cage (as i'm short on this also).

hope offers for help will pour in. my final choice will be to surrender her to the shelter and i hope it won't come to that.

waiting with bated breath :

June 08-12-2008 11:03 AM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Ashley,do you want volunteer to give donation until she give birth or do you want somebody to adopt her?? If you want donation,I will gather our friends for collection to be given to you.Poor Samantha. After she give birth then we can also give her kitten for adoption.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 2804)
Dear All Forummers and Animal Lovers

I urgently require help with caring for samantha.


I took samantha for her vet visit last sunday - for her vaccination and later on her neutering . unfortunately the vet pronounced her as pregnant - at least six weeks along. i was shocked to hear that as i kept her caged up and separated from my cats (one of which is still un-neutered) and any strays since she came to me . she must have been pregnant when she turned up at my doorstep. she's with me now for slightly over six weeks. vet said she's due in either 2 or 3 weeks time (pregnancy duration of 65 days)

my choices now are :
1) take her for abortion although it's considered late term abortion

2) to see her through with her care and delivery of her kittens

i've chosen for option 2 as i'm not sure there's any animal shelter here that practices no-kill policy (especially for a pregnant cat and future unwanted litter).

i've looked at my own household and i realised i'm short on

1) space to seggregate samantha from my own cats and gabriel so that samantha has a safe place for delivery - will reduce stress for her. not the time to try to integrate her with my cats right now. my cats don't like it for some reason.

2) i don't know anything about caring for pregnant cats and her kittens before, during and after delivery. just hearing the vet described it, i'm already panicking.


can some good samaritan out there help to take over care of samantha in her current condition? if yes, then i can turn my attention to her son, gabriel and keep him with me while trying to seek a permanent home for gabriel.

for some reason, my own cats are reacting aggressively to gabriel and to each other - they're very nervous and edgy. i am unable to cope with a pregnant cat right now, i'll be honest and i'm not too proud to ask for help especially when my mistakes and pride may cause further suffering to samantha and gabriel.

pls don't mistake my request for help as indicating that samantha is difficult and aggressive. that's far from it. she's still the sweet girl she is - just that i wish to have a good environment for her right now without her having to worry about her safety shelter and food.i myself am not able to care properly for her and i don't wish to do her an injustice by being to proud to admit that i need help with samantha.

pls don't worry, i won't ask any volunteers to foot samantha's vet bills. i can provide food for samantha if she's taken care by a volunteer but not the other equipments like litter box, water and food bowl, litter material or cage (as i'm short on this also).

hope offers for help will pour in. my final choice will be to surrender her to the shelter and i hope it won't come to that.

waiting with bated breath :

lynielime 08-12-2008 11:19 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
umm... i've got a cat room.. i don't know if it will do though.. will she be ok in a cage after giving birth? and the kittens?

kitty_inky 08-12-2008 11:20 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
kak june count me in if u want to collect donation.{good}

ashleywong 08-12-2008 01:37 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi lynielime, kitty_inky, june


i think i need to clarify i'm not asking for money or collecting money. i need help to take care of samantha before and during birth and after birth. of course if complication arises during birth and she needs to be taken to the vet, then i'll bear the vet expenses if it comes to that.

i will take her back to her vet this weekend to see whether we can find out how many kittens to expect - it will make it easier to monitor whether all her kittens come out as expected. last week's x-ray showed 1 kitten (at least i see one spine). the ultrasound showed two spines and a heart beating but inconclusive whether 1 or 2 kittens. only conclusive in confirming pregnancy. no charge for this week's x-ray exam. that's kind of the vet. (i'm glad i asked the vet to check first before taking her to the klinik kembiri - otherwise - dare not think of the consequences).

post delivery, i'll need to check with the vet when they're can be moved but i understand that the kittens can't be moved or touched during the initial period to reduce risk of rejection by the mother or reduce stress to the mother and interfere with her taking care of her babies.

post delivery, her kittens can be rehomed, around 6 weeks or so the earliest although the longer they stay with their mom, the more skills and behaviour they learned from her.

samantha is meant to be rehomed from the time i rescue her. there was an interested person but she didn't know that samantha is pregnant and neither did i at that time. i've written to this person to inform her of samantha's condition but have not received any reply.

lynielime, thanks for offering. if you have a cat room,will you be able to keep only samantha in this room? i was advised by my vet that at this point in time, samantha will be more protective of her unborn kittens and will be inclined to display more aggressiveness than is her norm when faced with other cats in her immediate surrounding. in any case, i was advised to not let her mingle with other cats before during and after her delivery. until she and kittens are ready (exactly how that means i also don't know).

any help and advice from forumers will be much appreciated.

thanks in advance.

lynielime 08-12-2008 02:02 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
it would be ok for her to be in a cage before during and after pregnancy? the whole time? or do you think the boredom will make her go bonkers? i guess my cat room would be ok because that is where i keep foster cats and kittens to keep them away from my other cats.. at the moment i am only fostering one kitten and since she's been with me so long she already has the run of the house meaning that the the cat room is now just a room that houses an empty cage, two huge litterboxes and massive containers of pet food.. i can't guarantee that none of the cats won't occasionally get into the room though.. even if samantha is in a cage, i think just the presence of the other cats in the house might drive her up the wall.. i dunno.. i've no experience with pregnant cats at all.. perhaps i could be your last resort? if you can't find a better option, i don't mind trying my best to help.

June 08-12-2008 02:19 PM
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Ashley,apologised for the misunderstanding.As much as I want to help but my hands are full. I have 5 cats + 3 kitten.1 cat is recuperating from a fall.

Lynie,u don't have to cage a pregnant queen but make sure the environment is quiet and let her have some private moment after the birth.Far from noise and crowd.

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Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 2908)
hi lynielime, kitty_inky, june


i think i need to clarify i'm not asking for money or collecting money. i need help to take care of samantha before and during birth and after birth. of course if complication arises during birth and she needs to be taken to the vet, then i'll bear the vet expenses if it comes to that.

i will take her back to her vet this weekend to see whether we can find out how many kittens to expect - it will make it easier to monitor whether all her kittens come out as expected. last week's x-ray showed 1 kitten (at least i see one spine). the ultrasound showed two spines and a heart beating but inconclusive whether 1 or 2 kittens. only conclusive in confirming pregnancy. no charge for this week's x-ray exam. that's kind of the vet. (i'm glad i asked the vet to check first before taking her to the klinik kembiri - otherwise - dare not think of the consequences).

post delivery, i'll need to check with the vet when they're can be moved but i understand that the kittens can't be moved or touched during the initial period to reduce risk of rejection by the mother or reduce stress to the mother and interfere with her taking care of her babies.

post delivery, her kittens can be rehomed, around 6 weeks or so the earliest although the longer they stay with their mom, the more skills and behaviour they learned from her.

samantha is meant to be rehomed from the time i rescue her. there was an interested person but she didn't know that samantha is pregnant and neither did i at that time. i've written to this person to inform her of samantha's condition but have not received any reply.

lynielime, thanks for offering. if you have a cat room,will you be able to keep only samantha in this room? i was advised by my vet that at this point in time, samantha will be more protective of her unborn kittens and will be inclined to display more aggressiveness than is her norm when faced with other cats in her immediate surrounding. in any case, i was advised to not let her mingle with other cats before during and after her delivery. until she and kittens are ready (exactly how that means i also don't know).

any help and advice from forumers will be much appreciated.

thanks in advance.

ashleywong 08-12-2008 02:38 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi lynielim and june

thanks for both your help and advices. it's been helpful as well as soothing. i've been thinking a lot on this ever since sunday. the ideal of course would be not to subject samantha to any more undue stress from being moved around and adjusting to new surroundings. i mean she's already okay with me and her current room. actually she's not happy being kept in a cage at the present moment but i see no other way for it.

i'll keep your offer in mind. let's see whether anyone can help out.

thanks a lot

i feel terrible for letting samantha down as i can't even offer her the basics of shelter and care. {cry}

ashleywong 08-12-2008 02:40 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
june,

have you had experience delivering kittens? perhaps you can share with me what will happen and what to expect? i'd like to prepare for worst case scenario (i.e. being the cat midwife)

thanks
ashley

June 08-12-2008 03:03 PM
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yes,twice.Basically you don't require much stuff.just prepare a box that big enough for Samantha and her kitten.put newspaper and towel as cover for her to lie or sleep inside it. Have you heard the phrase Macam Kucing Mau Beranak?? Meaning a queen that going to give birth will make a lot of noise and pacing back and forth,roaming around your house looking for a best place for her to give birth. So it is better for you to put her box far away from crowded area like living hall,kitchen. Maybe you can keep her in a room.Do you have extra room?? Don't be surprise if you see her giving birth under your bed or inside your wardrobe.Now you get the picture?? Cats normally doesn't need much help to give birth.They can do it on their own.But you can be by her side also like I did.Mine takes almost 24 hours for her to give birth.

maybe others forumer can give some input too.We can check with them.

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Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 2934)
june,

have you had experience delivering kittens? perhaps you can share with me what will happen and what to expect? i'd like to prepare for worst case scenario (i.e. being the cat midwife)

thanks
ashley

ashleywong 08-12-2008 08:01 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi june

thanks for the info.

i'm afraid i do really need help. i don't have the appropriate place for samantha to give birth unless it is at the front porch or backyard (unsheltered). both are unsuitable as it is not protected and not quiet. no spare room that is not used or low-traffic areas that are not wired with alarm motion sensor trigger. my house is not that big.

as much as i want to provide the ideal environment to samantha, i need to consider my current households including my own cats. i'm at my wits ends. i have many options for intergrating gabriel into my household but nothing works for samantha. i really don't have that extra space

unless it is okay to keep her confined in a cage (her current cage that's like 5ft tall and 3ft deep and 4 ft wide) before, during and after birth.

same question as lynielime. will this do for samantha?

but that leaves the question of where to put her cage where she wont' be disturb.

she's using my brother's room now but he's coming back in like a week's time....

right now, i don't wish to put too many restrictions on what sort of ideal conditions should be provided for samantha -i really need help and i can't afford to be choosy. i'm sorry to be so blunt but i'm forced to face reality and make some really decisions with my head now instead of with my heart. {sweat}

thanks so much for listening. i don't feel so sad already

June 08-12-2008 08:20 PM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
I know how do you feel because I was in your shoes before.What abt lynie's offer?? I think it is ok to keep her in the cage and let her out occasionally but as you said earlier, a lot of activies going on and she will not feel secure.Proabably the best thing is to let her choose where she wants to give birth in your house and after that we will figure out where to put her until we find a permanent home for her.how's that??


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Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 3090)
hi june

thanks for the info.

i'm afraid i do really need help. i don't have the appropriate place for samantha to give birth unless it is at the front porch or backyard (unsheltered). both are unsuitable as it is not protected and not quiet. no spare room that is not used or low-traffic areas that are not wired with alarm motion sensor trigger. my house is not that big.

as much as i want to provide the ideal environment to samantha, i need to consider my current households including my own cats. i'm at my wits ends. i have many options for intergrating gabriel into my household but nothing works for samantha. i really don't have that extra space

unless it is okay to keep her confined in a cage (her current cage that's like 5ft tall and 3ft deep and 4 ft wide) before, during and after birth.

same question as lynielime. will this do for samantha?

but that leaves the question of where to put her cage where she wont' be disturb.

she's using my brother's room now but he's coming back in like a week's time....

right now, i don't wish to put too many restrictions on what sort of ideal conditions should be provided for samantha -i really need help and i can't afford to be choosy. i'm sorry to be so blunt but i'm forced to face reality and make some really decisions with my head now instead of with my heart. {sweat}

thanks so much for listening. i don't feel so sad already

ashleywong 08-12-2008 08:46 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi june

i'm glad i have like-minded people to discuss with me my options. my family members are actually not that supportive of me keeping samantha "if" she's pregnant. yes, i've not told them yet. all hell will break lose.

i'm willing to consider lynie's offer actually i wanted to jump at it. but if is not convenient for her i don't want to force it on her.

as for my own house, the lack of support not withstanding, it's actually the lack of space that's limiting my ability to care for her. i've thought about it and there's really no really suitable spaces that can be pressed into service as labour room. *sigh*

i was advised by a friend that cats do it naturally all the time, be it indoor or outdoor and that i should just put samantha outdoors with a box and towels when the time is near.

is that advisable?

June 08-12-2008 09:00 PM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Ashley,I really feel for you.Not having support from family in this kind of situation is very depressing.Yes, i know because my hubby was against the idea of having strays cats as pet!!! He dislikes cat. But I told him is only for a while until I find a permanent home for them.2 mths become 6 then 8 then 1 year.he!!he!! Finally he gave in and now we share the chores cleaning the house,litter box,feedlng them etc.

I might have to agree with your friend because cat can do it naturally.As I mentioned on my early posting.U will be surprise if she give birth under your bed/wardrobe.As long as the place is quiet and cannot be sighted by us they 're fine with that.

Let us spread the word and hopefully she will find a good home.


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Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 3093)
hi june

i'm glad i have like-minded people to discuss with me my options. my family members are actually not that supportive of me keeping samantha "if" she's pregnant. yes, i've not told them yet. all hell will break lose.

i'm willing to consider lynie's offer actually i wanted to jump at it. but if is not convenient for her i don't want to force it on her.

as for my own house, the lack of support not withstanding, it's actually the lack of space that's limiting my ability to care for her. i've thought about it and there's really no really suitable spaces that can be pressed into service as labour room. *sigh*

i was advised by a friend that cats do it naturally all the time, be it indoor or outdoor and that i should just put samantha outdoors with a box and towels when the time is near.

is that advisable?

lynielime 08-13-2008 04:50 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
well ladies let's just do the best we can! oh and also let's do some research on pregnant kitties and delivery of kittens on the net...

ashleywong 08-14-2008 10:01 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi

i'm already sneaking some of my working hours reading up on the net, found a good site http://cats.about.com

i didn't know that nursing cat can get pregnant - now my questions answered - how and when.

now for the next part.

lynielime 08-14-2008 10:15 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
yeah ashley! i heard that too! apparently cats don't have "mating seasons". they can get pregnant anytime!! omg!! my vet told me yesterday that when a female cat is nursing, she should not be able to get pregnant.. nursing is sort of a form of contraceptive.. but this is not always the case and some cats can get pregnant as soon as 2 weeks after giving birth.

this really worries me because i have been trying to catch this stray siamese cat in my neighborhood.. she had a litter of 3 beautiful kittens about 2 months ago. i have made friends with her but the kittens won't come near me. i've got to catch them all at the same time as i don't want to leave any kittens out there in the street without their mother.. but i also don't want her to get pregnant again before i catch her! the clock is ticking! and there are gatal male cats EVERYWHERE!!!

any tips on how i can catch mama and her brood together? am already feeding them twice a day right in front of my house. mama is used to me but the kittens run away when i bring the food and only creep back slowly when i've backed off a few meters..

June 08-14-2008 10:23 AM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Hey!! That's sound familiar!! I have the same problem too.Mother very friendly cat but her kittens are quite defensive. I did what 1 guy from other forumer advise me to do. I put my carrier outside.Let the door open wide.Tie a string (very halus string,if possible white string) at the door.Put the food inside the carrier.Once the got inside to eat, pull the string and close the carrier door.whoa!!! really works man!!! But u must know visible to them.

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Originally Posted by lynielime (Post 3637)
yeah ashley! i heard that too! apparently cats don't have "mating seasons". they can get pregnant anytime!! omg!! my vet told me yesterday that when a female cat is nursing, she should not be able to get pregnant.. nursing is sort of a form of contraceptive.. but this is not always the case and some cats can get pregnant as soon as 2 weeks after giving birth.

this really worries me because i have been trying to catch this stray siamese cat in my neighborhood.. she had a litter of 3 beautiful kittens about 2 months ago. i have made friends with her but the kittens won't come near me. i've got to catch them all at the same time as i don't want to leave any kittens out there in the street without their mother.. but i also don't want her to get pregnant again before i catch her! the clock is ticking! and there are gatal male cats EVERYWHERE!!!

any tips on how i can catch mama and her brood together? am already feeding them twice a day right in front of my house. mama is used to me but the kittens run away when i bring the food and only creep back slowly when i've backed off a few meters..

sillylupie 08-14-2008 10:30 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Hi Ashley,

Must be a shock to find out that Samantha is expecting!!

Yes, nursing cats can get pregnant, believe it or not that Lulu is now in heat and her kittens are only less than 2 mths!! I am keeping her indoor until her heat is over and off she goes to the vet!

Her earlier pregnancy was unexpected as she escaped through the window one morning, returned in the evening and 9 weeks later, pop, 3 little adorable kittens!

Cats are very independant animals, no human intervention needed, unless she is very close to you! My lulu, was following me around and insisted that I am by her side as she gave birth on a Friday morning, 3.00am! Again, it was quite an experience not to be missed!

I would like to suggest that you provide her a big box padded with old clothes, in a quiet place, safe somewhere outside the house. Let her get used to it. It is better than sending her off to a shelter. I believe that cat does it naturally, don't worry too much....

sillylupie 08-14-2008 10:33 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by June (Post 3642)
Hey!! That's sound familiar!! I have the same problem too.Mother very friendly cat but her kittens are quite defensive. I did what 1 guy from other forumer advise me to do. I put my carrier outside.Let the door open wide.Tie a string (very halus string,if possible white string) at the door.Put the food inside the carrier.Once the got inside to eat, pull the string and close the carrier door.whoa!!! really works man!!! But u must know visible to them.
Eh ... June, macam tangkap tikus only....

sillylupie 08-14-2008 10:36 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynielime (Post 3637)
yeah ashley! i heard that too! apparently cats don't have "mating seasons". they can get pregnant anytime!! omg!! my vet told me yesterday that when a female cat is nursing, she should not be able to get pregnant.. nursing is sort of a form of contraceptive.. but this is not always the case and some cats can get pregnant as soon as 2 weeks after giving birth.

this really worries me because i have been trying to catch this stray siamese cat in my neighborhood.. she had a litter of 3 beautiful kittens about 2 months ago. i have made friends with her but the kittens won't come near me. i've got to catch them all at the same time as i don't want to leave any kittens out there in the street without their mother.. but i also don't want her to get pregnant again before i catch her! the clock is ticking! and there are gatal male cats EVERYWHERE!!!

any tips on how i can catch mama and her brood together? am already feeding them twice a day right in front of my house. mama is used to me but the kittens run away when i bring the food and only creep back slowly when i've backed off a few meters..
Lynielime, amazing that you actually go out and catch stray cats!
Have u tried stroking the mama when u feed her? Stay with her when she eats, let the kittens watch. They will then slowly know that you are "trustable"... then again, like you say, clock is ticking!!! GATAL TOMCATS!

lynielime 08-14-2008 10:39 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
June,
that string thing is a great idea! i have been putting my carrier outside to get them used to it, but could not figure out how to quickly and quietly sneak up on them and close the door... also usually they will not all be inside.. jsut one or two.. i will try with two carriers tonight and also with your string idea {cool}. thanks!!



Quote:
Originally Posted by June (Post 3642)
Hey!! That's sound familiar!! I have the same problem too.Mother very friendly cat but her kittens are quite defensive. I did what 1 guy from other forumer advise me to do. I put my carrier outside.Let the door open wide.Tie a string (very halus string,if possible white string) at the door.Put the food inside the carrier.Once the got inside to eat, pull the string and close the carrier door.whoa!!! really works man!!! But u must know visible to them.

lynielime 08-14-2008 10:44 AM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
yup have been stroking her.. that took some time also.. she is not very trusting. i think she has had some bad experience with previous owners. i believe she msut have been a pet at one point. she is the most beautiful stray i have ever seen.. but even though she is gorgeous, she must be neutered!!! she is creating too many beautiful strays in my neighborhood!!

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Originally Posted by sillylupie (Post 3649)
Lynielime, amazing that you actually go out and catch stray cats!
Have u tried stroking the mama when u feed her? Stay with her when she eats, let the kittens watch. They will then slowly know that you are "trustable"... then again, like you say, clock is ticking!!! GATAL TOMCATS!

ashleywong 08-14-2008 02:32 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi all

as for the continous stray cats problem, i wonder if it is possible to enlist the help of spca or paws or govt vet hospital in a trap neuter and release approach. i have heard of it but not sure whether this is actively pursued in msia. at least this way, it solves the immediately problem of increasing population of unwanted kittens.

i've actually thought of letting samantha out and give her a box at one corner of my porch. however there are some stray male cats around from time to time. my concern is for sam and not to lose her to the streets again and i'm not sure whether she'd run away somewhere else to give birth if she's harrassed by large tom cats. however the porch is ideal as our house is empty the whole day and also at night after we go to sleep. it's the concern of losing her to the streets again that stayed my hands.

however i may have cautious good news. the lady who initially wanted to adopt samantha has offered to help look after samantha until after her delivery and then we'd work together to rehome the kittens. however she is not free now as she is currently looking after cats for her friends and she can only know in 10 days' time.

she's really offering me a silver branch and i hope i can place samantha with her but i know i can't bank all my hopes on her alone, i need to do my part also to work to find other possible leads also.

lynielime 08-14-2008 02:46 PM
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ashley you're right.. i suppose there is no guarantee that samantha will use a box set up on your porch if she doesn't feel it is right and you will not be able to control every aspect of an outside environment. i also don't want her to take to the streets in search of a place to give birth. what if she doesn't come back? how close is your bond with her? would she come back if she left?

About the trap-neuter-release program, i don't know about paws, but spca does have a program like that. i think they work together with dbkl klinik kembiri on this. i'm not sure how succesful this has been though.

blackie007 08-14-2008 02:48 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Bina: That's what I thought too, when I read how June tangkap the cats.

Ashley: If you can, feed the queen with kitten food now and while she's nursing. Kitten food has more nutrition and will help the mother cat produce healthier kittens. And yes, I agree with June and Bina, any place that's quiet and cozy is a good place for the mother cat to give birth.

June: My hubby is just like yours. He didn't agree to my taking stray cats as pets. He wasn't too happy when Blackie's mother kept coming to my door for food twice a day, but he didn't chase her away, just won't allow her to step inside our home.

Then, when I rescued Blackie and Brownie after their mother died, he objected. But later, realised that they're defenseless and can't survive if I don't bring them home. So I told him I'd rehome them once they have learnt to eat on their own. But I never did, and now, nearly 3 years later, he loves Blackie, too, picking him and playing with him everyday.....hehhehe.
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Originally Posted by sillylupie (Post 3647)
Eh ... June, macam tangkap tikus only....

June 08-14-2008 03:03 PM
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heh!!heh!! tangkap tikus kena pakai gam supaya tikus melekat cannot run away.



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Originally Posted by sillylupie (Post 3647)
Eh ... June, macam tangkap tikus only....

June 08-14-2008 03:12 PM
Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
Ashley,are u refering to lady as Nurul/Phylis?? If she give her offer you can rest assure your cat will be in good hand.She's our friend and recently join the petfinder forum.

I did quite many time TNR around my area too. But I dunno why recently number of strays increasing. I normally spay the female first and then male. I got 2 mother cats that on waiting list to be spay once their kitten reach 2 mths. I cannot tahan see her flabby belly.huhuhuhuhu!!!

Blackie,now my hubby loves the cats very much.He always play with them when comes home.he likes 2 particular cats among all.Tomtom aka Gemok and Bonnie because they always response him back when he play with them. he!!he!!

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Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 3725)
hi all

as for the continous stray cats problem, i wonder if it is possible to enlist the help of spca or paws or govt vet hospital in a trap neuter and release approach. i have heard of it but not sure whether this is actively pursued in msia. at least this way, it solves the immediately problem of increasing population of unwanted kittens.

i've actually thought of letting samantha out and give her a box at one corner of my porch. however there are some stray male cats around from time to time. my concern is for sam and not to lose her to the streets again and i'm not sure whether she'd run away somewhere else to give birth if she's harrassed by large tom cats. however the porch is ideal as our house is empty the whole day and also at night after we go to sleep. it's the concern of losing her to the streets again that stayed my hands.

however i may have cautious good news. the lady who initially wanted to adopt samantha has offered to help look after samantha until after her delivery and then we'd work together to rehome the kittens. however she is not free now as she is currently looking after cats for her friends and she can only know in 10 days' time.

she's really offering me a silver branch and i hope i can place samantha with her but i know i can't bank all my hopes on her alone, i need to do my part also to work to find other possible leads also.

ashleywong 08-15-2008 10:23 AM
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Hi All

Cautious good news. I may have found help for samantha. one of the forumer here has offered to help but only if she's free from her current obligations at a certain date.

thanks to all who read and helped out. i'll keep you all posted about samantha from time to time.

gabriel last night turned into a pro-footballer. he was so tangkas. i just cruched up a piece of newpaper and off he goes!

samantha is coming along well. i can now see the swell on her tummy and she's due back for her checkup tommorow.

thanks all

lynielime 08-17-2008 11:29 AM
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Hi everyone!
June your tangkap tikus carrier idea worked! I caught two of the kittens last night. I hope to catch the last kitten today. Then i can bring mama in. Mama's great she was totally fine with me taking her babies last night. Unfortunately only two of them were with her. I don't want to leave the last one out in the world alone so i let mama go. Let's hope that when mama comes for her meals today, the last kitten follows her. Wish me luck ladies! We're almost there!

June 08-17-2008 07:59 PM
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CONGRATULATIONS!!! keep us posted on your cat hunting {wink}


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Originally Posted by lynielime (Post 4594)
Hi everyone!
June your tangkap tikus carrier idea worked! I caught two of the kittens last night. I hope to catch the last kitten today. Then i can bring mama in. Mama's great she was totally fine with me taking her babies last night. Unfortunately only two of them were with her. I don't want to leave the last one out in the world alone so i let mama go. Let's hope that when mama comes for her meals today, the last kitten follows her. Wish me luck ladies! We're almost there!

ashleywong 08-18-2008 09:46 AM
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Hi all

yes, that big-hearted lady is phyllis. {happy} she agreed to help me with samantha soon.

i took samantha back to the vet yesterday for 2nd x-ray. 1st x-ray on 9th august only showed up 1 kitten although the ultra-sound taken at the same time showed two spines.

yesterday's x-ray confirmed two skulls and two spines clearly. so we can expect at the very least 2 kittens. i hope it is only two kittens. it' be easier for everybody.

how close is her bond to me? i'm not sure but i'm certain she understands that my house is a current safe place for her and her unborn kittens. samantha escaped on saturday morning just about the time i wanted to load her into her carrier. i was to take her, gabriel, my nicky and ginger to the vet for their checkups. my fault i forgot to latch the door of her pen and i had the windows thrown wide open to air her room. we left without her and when we returned 3 hours later surprisingly she was already home back in her room hiding underneath the bed. and she jumped right back into her pen after that for her toilet needs and food. don't think she went far, just sunning herself on the roof (1st floor window). but if she were to be out at the front (ground level) with all noises, distractions and stray cats around, i'm not sure she won't bolt t the first opportunity.

now that gabriel has been successfully rehomed, we can turn more of our attention to samantha. but reality is i still lack the space for her to birth her babies comfortably.

i'd would appreciate it if there are also others who can help out with samantha from this sunday onwards , in case unforseen circumstances prevents phyllis from helping out. ginger boy's neutering has been postponed to this week as he's not feeling well now. and my brother is coming back..

so i'd really appreciate other offers for help also. {grin}

ashleywong 08-26-2008 02:32 PM
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Hi

thanks to all who have been following this thread and offering support in terms of advice and offer for help.

felix the cat has very kindly offered to help me foster samantha for the time being.

samantha has not given birth yet. we and samantha are still expecting. her delivery date, estimated at best guess, was supposed to be either last week or this week - and this is not absolute as the we don't know the exact date of conception.

for now felix is able to take care of samantha and she is truly generous as she has 6 cats of her own to take care of, besides her family also. for this i'm greatly indebted to her.

however i'd like to prepare for worst case scenario and therefore would like to line up some volunteers in case another fosterer is needed for samantha and her kittens.

volunteer needed to help foster samantha from now until birth of her kittens and for a few weeks after that (as the kittens would be too fragile to be moved about so soon). looking for a fosterer with space/room and lots of love to spare. i will provide samantha's food and litter box as well as litter material but i really lack the space now , especially that ginger is now recuperating from his castration (it went on schedule after all) and nicky is recovering from a bacterial infection and is now under quarantine.

i hope there'd be more volunteers stepping up to the plate. i don't want to burden felix more than she can reasonably coop with.

ashleywong 09-02-2008 11:53 AM
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Hi All

thanks for all your concern and support and thanks especially to Felix for bestowing such wonderful care on samantha during her pregnancy and be there by herself during delivery. my salute to felix.

samantha has safely delivered a healthy baby kitten last friday at 8.30pm. felix was there all the time with her offering samantha support and encouragement and even assistance. that was much more than what i could do and did for samantha.

felix and i are now proud foster-feline grandparent. when the time is right, the black kitty will be rehomed.

the kitty is black with silver socks. i'll be looking in on the

lynielime 09-02-2008 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 7792)
Hi All

thanks for all your concern and support and thanks especially to Felix for bestowing such wonderful care on samantha during her pregnancy and be there by herself during delivery. my salute to felix.

samantha has safely delivered a healthy baby kitten last friday at 8.30pm. felix was there all the time with her offering samantha support and encouragement and even assistance. that was much more than what i could do and did for samantha.

felix and i are now proud foster-feline grandparent. when the time is right, the black kitty will be rehomed.

the kitty is black with silver socks. i'll be looking in on the
wowee!! congratulations!! only one kitten? that's pretty rare! is he/she a big one?

filinlee 09-02-2008 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lynielime (Post 7798)
wowee!! congratulations!! only one kitten? that's pretty rare! is he/she a big one?
ermm not sure its a he or not.. but he's not that big... the other fella did not make it as he was delivered legs out first...so he sort of mati lemas...

that's what i heard from phyllis/nurul who's taking care of samantha... ssaw her n the other forumers last saturday during the blackwud party... ehehehhe {victory}{shy}

lynielime 09-02-2008 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by filinlee (Post 7805)
ermm not sure its a he or not.. but he's not that big... the other fella did not make it as he was delivered legs out first...so he sort of mati lemas...

that's what i heard from phyllis/nurul who's taking care of samantha... ssaw her n the other forumers last saturday during the blackwud party... ehehehhe {victory}{shy}
oh no!!! poor baby...

filinlee 09-02-2008 02:13 PM
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yeap.. kesian him....{cry2}

ashleywong 09-02-2008 03:14 PM
Re: Urgent Help Needed with Samantha
 
hi all

yes the second kitten was a breach. we expect two kitens indicated by the x-ray. i dunno maybe it was a nasty twist of fate. the legs came out first. i didn't mention it as i didn't want to dampen everybody's enthusiasm. i was also to blame as i was over-confident and didn't call on phyllis to check on samantha's condition. since she didn't give birth earlier i thought she'd be exactly due on 31st august. as fate would have it, phyllis lost my hp number...maybe it was fate i dunno. i feel very sad i have failed samantha. i told her i'd make sure she and her babies will be okay and i didn't.

i hope god bless its soul the poor kitty.

sillylupie 09-02-2008 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashleywong (Post 7824)
hi all

yes the second kitten was a breach. we expect two kitens indicated by the x-ray. i dunno maybe it was a nasty twist of fate. the legs came out first. i didn't mention it as i didn't want to dampen everybody's enthusiasm. i was also to blame as i was over-confident and didn't call on phyllis to check on samantha's condition. since she didn't give birth earlier i thought she'd be exactly due on 31st august. as fate would have it, phyllis lost my hp number...maybe it was fate i dunno. i feel very sad i have failed samantha. i told her i'd make sure she and her babies will be okay and i didn't.

i hope god bless its soul the poor kitty.
Ashley, don't be so hard on yourself. I am sure Samantha appreciates all the help, efforts that you and Phyllis have given to her.

Looking forward to pictures of kitten as he/she grows.... :)


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