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Old 01-29-2009, 12:17 AM
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Kita yang tahu...sama2 bantu memberitahu pd yg tak tahu... Sha pun pernh & tak larat nk bg confirmation to my Aunt abt this.. She said neut tu Haram/Berdosa.. But I said, If i biarkan that catz branak pinak bnyk2, mana i nk ltak dorg?? Ptut ke kat psar borong?? Lg bdosa.. Kita yg tahu bnda ni patut educate yg tak tahu... Btul x K. June & mmber lain...
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Adik / adik ipar nenek saya neuter semua stray cat yang datang ke rumah / kebun dia.. Dia cakap lagi seronok bila tengok kucing tu gemok-gemok semua lepas kena neuter / spay .

Diorang feed kucing tu.. kucing tu tangkap tikus / tupai dan susun depan pintu .. dengan pekerja mahir macam tu.. who needs pesticide?!
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Adik / adik ipar nenek saya neuter semua stray cat yang datang ke rumah / kebun dia.. Dia cakap lagi seronok bila tengok kucing tu gemok-gemok semua lepas kena neuter / spay .

Diorang feed kucing tu.. kucing tu tangkap tikus / tupai dan susun depan pintu .. dengan pekerja mahir macam tu.. who needs pesticide?!
owh...hebat2!*clap clap clap*

nak taknak jugak neutering/spaying all up to the owners but still no harm done in educating others...
but still obviously lagi banyak pros than cons on neutering ni...
better have a say than nothing...
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Well said Charlene. By the way xsynie, pls don' use religion to justify your action.I hate it when people do that. You painted wrong image of Islam to the non muslim.Just admit that you breed the cats. End of story.
June, don't wokri, non-muslims won't get wrong picture because you may not be aware, many non-muslims are smart enuf to know the truth about Islam and other religions, they just throw tomatoes at the self-claimed & self-righteous muka tebal so-called religious people who do not practise the religion correctly and harm the animals. Same goes for the Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and so on. God loves the animals created for our joy and they are precious in His sight.

And you, dear, must learn not to take it as an insult to the religion and yourself when these people get smashed all over the face with rotting tomatoes, ya? The rotties are not for your face or your religion, they are for those ugly thick skinned hypocritical onion faces .... regardless of religion.

At the end of the day, it is about their personal ethics and principles.

June & Fanaticat, duck quick, I am going to baling another mushy smelly tomato at another ugly face!!!!

I told you two to duck laaaaaaaa ............

Sooiiiiieeeee!!!! Thousand apologies .....

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Comel, Xsynie, mcm kucing ni yang kitorang terjumpa dalam longkang semasa kecik dibuang orang dalam plastik hitam dan sedang cuba menyelamatkan dirinya daripada kejaran 3 ekor anjing besar.

Nasib baik kitorang tengah lalu masa tu dan terdengar jeritan dan tangisannya. Terus terjun ke parit besar utk selamatkannya!

Habis kotor dan busuk satu badan (kitorang punya la!)

Banyak kucing comel dalam longkang tepi jalan dan shelters ... tak payah breeding atau beli dari petshop!
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Comel, Xsynie, mcm kucing ni yang kitorang terjumpa dalam longkang semasa kecik dibuang orang dalam plastik hitam dan sedang cuba menyelamatkan dirinya daripada kejaran 3 ekor anjing besar.

Nasib baik kitorang tengah lalu masa tu dan terdengar jeritan dan tangisannya. Terus terjun ke parit besar utk selamatkannya!

Habis kotor dan busuk satu badan (kitorang punya la!)

Banyak kucing comel dalam longkang tepi jalan dan shelters ... tak payah breeding atau beli dari petshop!
Tapikan Furkids, kalau beli bengal beli kat petshop tanpa TICA cert sama je tarafnye dengan kucing yg u jumpa dalam longkang kan? domestic short hair kan? betul ke?
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Nasib baik kitorang tengah lalu masa tu dan terdengar jeritan dan tangisannya. Terus terjun ke parit besar utk selamatkannya!

Habis kotor dan busuk satu badan (kitorang punya la!)

May ALLAH bless you with your NOBLE effort. I pray for your happiness and all the stray cats you had save and plan to save in future.

As ALLAH say forgiveness is the best among all effort
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Tapikan Furkids, kalau beli bengal beli kat petshop tanpa TICA cert sama je tarafnye dengan kucing yg u jumpa dalam longkang kan? domestic short hair kan? betul ke?
Taraf kerakyatan sememang sama, kira pendatang haram sebab tak ade surat, tapi kalau mak bapak pure JAWA anak tetap JAWA tak kan sama dengan anak pure MINANG walaupun kedua duanya tak ada surat beranak Malaysia.

Kalau kedua dua mak bapak Jawa dimandulkan lama lama takkan ada anak JAWA didunia ni. Tinggal lah anak anak MINANG yang bersepah sepah di longkang longkang dan a handful breed JAWA yang akan menjadi elite and reachable by a few elite people only.

So what say the wrest, lets take this as a discussion platform not a shelling zone.
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Tapikan Furkids, kalau beli bengal beli kat petshop tanpa TICA cert sama je tarafnye dengan kucing yg u jumpa dalam longkang kan? domestic short hair kan? betul ke?
Sama, kawan, cuma yg kat longkang tu free and lagi special because you mercifully saved a life from certain death. Each time you look into the eyes of a rescued animal, you see a special look, very deep and meaningful from it.

Like someone says, "Love knows no pedigree"!
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Taraf kerakyatan sememang sama, kira pendatang haram sebab tak ade surat, tapi kalau mak bapak pure JAWA anak tetap JAWA tak kan sama dengan anak pure MINANG walaupun kedua duanya tak ada surat beranak Malaysia.

Kalau kedua dua mak bapak Jawa dimandulkan lama lama takkan ada anak JAWA didunia ni. Tinggal lah anak anak MINANG yang bersepah sepah di longkang longkang dan a handful breed JAWA yang akan menjadi elite and reachable by a few elite people only.

So what say the wrest, lets take this as a discussion platform not a shelling zone.
Yokay, my friend ... ooohhh, sebonarnya saya takut nengok your rippling muscles in your avatar, xsynie, macam diperbuat dengan besi keluli .... patah leher saya kalau kena penumbuk!
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Yokay, my friend ... ooohhh, sebonarnya saya takut nengok your rippling muscles in your avatar, xsynie, macam diperbuat dengan besi keluli .... patah leher saya kalau kena penumbuk!

Told you not to make me angry, elok elok tiduq kena juluk pungkoq

No hard feeling just joking...........ha ha ha ha
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Told you not to make me angry, elok elok tiduq kena juluk pungkoq
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As ALLAH say forgiveness is the best among all effort
Waaahhh ... you said it all ..... in one single breath!
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Taraf kerakyatan sememang sama, kira pendatang haram sebab tak ade surat, tapi kalau mak bapak pure JAWA anak tetap JAWA tak kan sama dengan anak pure MINANG walaupun kedua duanya tak ada surat beranak Malaysia.

Kalau kedua dua mak bapak Jawa dimandulkan lama lama takkan ada anak JAWA didunia ni. Tinggal lah anak anak MINANG yang bersepah sepah di longkang longkang dan a handful breed JAWA yang akan menjadi elite and reachable by a few elite people only.

So what say the wrest, lets take this as a discussion platform not a shelling zone.
Yes! I agree, whatever we do here shud be as civilize as possible. It shud be a discussion platform & not just simply mud slinging at one another. At the end of the day nothing is learning here but enemies been made which is not good or fruitful at all.

Everyone can voice their opinions but it is up to the reader to choose whether to accept it or not. I believe some ppl breed for money & some breed for fun without realizing the consequence they bring about in their breeding. Then again we have ppl who want to breed for the passion of the breed but not knowing how to go about it.

How much does one choose to listen or accept the truth & fact of what they have learned reflect the truth & sincerity of what they are doing? This is a free world but be honest with what we are doing.
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i agree with u coony... the key point is "be honest"... if u purposely join this forum to sell cat (well.. some sort of platform meeting with your potential costumer).. well... say it out loud.. do not hide by giving so many unacceptable excuses (i.e. it's forbidden by religion belief or whatsoever)... to give away cat for "adoption"....

the reason why this forum is established in the first place is for cats lover.. regardless who love cat for their breed or whatsoever...

but please bare in mind... our priority is saving strays...
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Yes, xsynie, at the end of the day, you do what you want, no one can force you to do otherwise, but do be honest about it.

Because first you said you cannot do neutering because your religion forbides it. This alasan has been shot full of holes by your fellow Muslims.

Then you give alasan that "Kalau kedua dua mak bapak Jawa dimandulkan lama lama takkan ada anak JAWA didunia ni. Tinggal lah anak anak MINANG yang bersepah sepah di longkang longkang dan a handful breed JAWA yang akan menjadi elite and reachable by a few elite people only".

If you intend to breed whether as legitimate breeder or backyard breeder, in reality no one can stop you, but you don't have to beat around the bush and keep giving reasons as to why you refuse to neuter your animals because, there are people who will buy from legitimate breeders and there are also people who will buy from backyard breeders also.

Just be honest so that your customers can expect to get an honest deal out of you. After all, as Andy Tai Koh said, this is a "pet finder forum" i.e. for people to find pets (he didn't say from longkang, pasar, tepi jalan, legitimate breeders or illegitimate breeders).

Be ethical.

p.s. Anyway, who cares whether a person is Minang or Jawa. Is a Minang superior to a Jawa or is a Jawa superior to a Minang? Who cares whether there is no more Minang or no more Jawa as long as there are humans with warm and compassionate hearts and sound mind?

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Taraf kerakyatan sememang sama, kira pendatang haram sebab tak ade surat, tapi kalau mak bapak pure JAWA anak tetap JAWA tak kan sama dengan anak pure MINANG walaupun kedua duanya tak ada surat beranak Malaysia.

Kalau kedua dua mak bapak Jawa dimandulkan lama lama takkan ada anak JAWA didunia ni. Tinggal lah anak anak MINANG yang bersepah sepah di longkang longkang dan a handful breed JAWA yang akan menjadi elite and reachable by a few elite people only.

So what say the wrest, lets take this as a discussion platform not a shelling zone.
Discussion platform.

kita adalah rakyat malaysia kerana kita ada surat beranak/IC yg menyatakan kita rakyat Malaysia. kris dayanti adalah rakyat indonesia kerana beliau mempunyai kerakyatan indonesia. Org jawa di singapura dan malaysia bolehkah mereka ini mengaku mereka rakyat indonesia kerana mereka berketurunan jawa. semua kerakyatan ini di tentukan oleh sesebuah negara.

Org cina di Malaysia adalah rakyat malaysia, org cina di singapura adalah rakyat singapura, org cina di China adalah rakyat china. Org cina tanpa kerakyatan pula adalah org mana? Adakah Malaysia akan mengaku mereka rakyat malaysia ? Adakah Singapura akan mengaku mereka rakyat singapura? ataupun China mengaku mereka ini rakyat China? Org cina tersebut boleh menyatakan bahawa dia org cina tetapi jika tiada negara pun yg sanggup menerimanya dia masih merupakan org cina tanpa negara.

kerakyatan boleh la kita umpamakan seperti breed manakala cat organisation pula sebagai sebuah negara. cat organisation tersebutlah menentukan spesifikasi breed dan breed mana yg boleh diterima berada di dalam negara tersebut. Kucing yg tiada sijil seumpama manusia yg tiada kerakyatan. walaupun ia menyatakan bahawa is adalah kucing siam tetapi jika tiada bukti menunjukkan bahawa ia kucing siam dari mana2 cat organisation ia hanyalah kucing.
tapi tidak bermakna kita tidak perlu sayang kepadanya. kasih sayang seharusnya sama tidak kira pedegree atau tidak.

emmm betul ke tidak penerangan aku ni
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May ALLAH bless you with your NOBLE effort. I pray for your happiness and all the stray cats you had save and plan to save in future.

As ALLAH say forgiveness is the best among all effort
My dear, I think you do not need to pray for the strays than I save, but rather, save your prayers for the strays that you contribute to the streets later on through the cucu and cicit of your cats that turned out not-so-comel in the production assembly line that nobody wants to adopt.
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muahahahahah!! thumbs up for you FK.I like this one.

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My dear, I think you do not need to pray for the strays than I save, but rather, save your prayers for the strays that you contribute to the streets later on through the cucu and cicit of your cats that turned out not-so-comel in the production assembly line that nobody wants to adopt.
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Discussion platform.

kita adalah rakyat malaysia kerana kita ada surat beranak/IC yg menyatakan kita rakyat Malaysia. kris dayanti adalah rakyat indonesia kerana beliau mempunyai kerakyatan indonesia. Org jawa di singapura dan malaysia bolehkah mereka ini mengaku mereka rakyat indonesia kerana mereka berketurunan jawa. semua kerakyatan ini di tentukan oleh sesebuah negara.

Org cina di Malaysia adalah rakyat malaysia, org cina di singapura adalah rakyat singapura, org cina di China adalah rakyat china. Org cina tanpa kerakyatan pula adalah org mana? Adakah Malaysia akan mengaku mereka rakyat malaysia ? Adakah Singapura akan mengaku mereka rakyat singapura? ataupun China mengaku mereka ini rakyat China? Org cina tersebut boleh menyatakan bahawa dia org cina tetapi jika tiada negara pun yg sanggup menerimanya dia masih merupakan org cina tanpa negara.

kerakyatan boleh la kita umpamakan seperti breed manakala cat organisation pula sebagai sebuah negara. cat organisation tersebutlah menentukan spesifikasi breed dan breed mana yg boleh diterima berada di dalam negara tersebut. Kucing yg tiada sijil seumpama manusia yg tiada kerakyatan. walaupun ia menyatakan bahawa is adalah kucing siam tetapi jika tiada bukti menunjukkan bahawa ia kucing siam dari mana2 cat organisation ia hanyalah kucing.
tapi tidak bermakna kita tidak perlu sayang kepadanya. kasih sayang seharusnya sama tidak kira pedegree atau tidak.

emmm betul ke tidak penerangan aku ni
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